Ulas? Oceanic teaser

Tim Simmons · 11th January 2021, 01:43 PM

So far this is the only Fijian club of the correct appearance that seems to have the same simple geometric type form shell? inlay.

Tim Simmons · 11th January 2021, 02:01 PM

More food for thought. The inlay these artefacts from Palau Micronesia show a very similar form and somewhat sparse use of Tridacna shell {Leden und Uberleben im Westpazifik, Sudensee, Linden Museum Stuttgart}

If anybody can add information to the thread you are very welcome.

Tim Simmons · 11th January 2021, 02:16 PM

Some of the varied forms of Fijian Ulas and certainly not the be all and end all of possible forms. {Fijian Weapons & Warfare, Fergus Clunie }

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2021, 11:39 AM

I have this now and it is rather lovely. On close inspection it does appear to be cherry wood. As I looked closer at the inlay, the pointy bits are indeed mother of pearl however end piece in the end I think is bone. This clearly octagonal shaped looked Japanese or Chinese to me. That got me researching and the Shaku baton fits quite well. It is not the most high ranking form but still a symbol of considerable status in court or religion. At the present time I can only add a wiki link but I hope to find a lot more about this interesting baton. Here are some more photos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaku_(ritual_baton)

David · 21st January 2021, 03:13 PM

Well, i am not particularly a club collector, but i do have one Fiji Ulas. I live near the town of Lunenburg, NS, which is home port to the Picton Castle, a masted tall ship that for many years did annual around the world trips, Fiji being one of their stops. They have a shop in town and sell items they have picked up along their travels.
Anyway, this club, along with a few other, was in their shop for some time and i found it attractive and finally purchased it. It is obviously new and never used, but it seems to have been made in a well-crafted and traditional manner out of a weighty hardwood. Feels great in hand with a nice top-heaviness that would help bring the top of this club down with a nice bit of extra velocity. I am not interested in collecting clubs enough to pay the price that a nice antique example of this club would cost, but feel that for a much more meager price i got a well-crafted example made in the manner that the actual antique items were. This particular style (would it be "f" on your diagram?) is a lovely bit of design and workmanship i think.

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2021, 04:39 PM

Thank you for your reply. I am in two minds and Fiji is still to my experience the main contender for origin as there is a prunus genus native to Fiji

http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/ur...mes:30003057-2

However there are atypical aspects that could question Fiji. Inlay of bone, shell or teeth are common but not the octagonal shape? also the bark still on the stick. Also I could see a Japanese aesthetic ? in this piece .

AndreasM · 21st January 2021, 05:02 PM

As a curator of Japanese art I can tell you that there are no clubs of this shape or form in East Asia and certainly not in Japan.

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2021, 05:22 PM

Geometric shape inlay is common but have never seen an octagon.

11th January 2021, 01:43 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	So far this is the only Fijian club of the correct appearance that seems to have the same simple geometric type form shell? inlay. Attached Images

11th January 2021, 02:01 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	More food for thought. The inlay these artefacts from Palau Micronesia show a very similar form and somewhat sparse use of Tridacna shell {Leden und Uberleben im Westpazifik, Sudensee, Linden Museum Stuttgart} If anybody can add information to the thread you are very welcome. Attached Images

11th January 2021, 02:16 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Some of the varied forms of Fijian Ulas and certainly not the be all and end all of possible forms. {Fijian Weapons & Warfare, Fergus Clunie } Attached Images

21st January 2021, 11:39 AM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Ritual Shaku baton I have this now and it is rather lovely. On close inspection it does appear to be cherry wood. As I looked closer at the inlay, the pointy bits are indeed mother of pearl however end piece in the end I think is bone. This clearly octagonal shaped looked Japanese or Chinese to me. That got me researching and the Shaku baton fits quite well. It is not the most high ranking form but still a symbol of considerable status in court or religion. At the present time I can only add a wiki link but I hope to find a lot more about this interesting baton. Here are some more photos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaku_(ritual_baton) Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 21st January 2021 at 04:40 PM.

21st January 2021, 03:13 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Well, i am not particularly a club collector, but i do have one Fiji Ulas. I live near the town of Lunenburg, NS, which is home port to the Picton Castle, a masted tall ship that for many years did annual around the world trips, Fiji being one of their stops. They have a shop in town and sell items they have picked up along their travels. Anyway, this club, along with a few other, was in their shop for some time and i found it attractive and finally purchased it. It is obviously new and never used, but it seems to have been made in a well-crafted and traditional manner out of a weighty hardwood. Feels great in hand with a nice top-heaviness that would help bring the top of this club down with a nice bit of extra velocity. I am not interested in collecting clubs enough to pay the price that a nice antique example of this club would cost, but feel that for a much more meager price i got a well-crafted example made in the manner that the actual antique items were. This particular style (would it be "f" on your diagram?) is a lovely bit of design and workmanship i think. Attached Images

21st January 2021, 04:39 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Thank you for your reply. I am in two minds and Fiji is still to my experience the main contender for origin as there is a prunus genus native to Fiji http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/ur...mes:30003057-2 However there are atypical aspects that could question Fiji. Inlay of bone, shell or teeth are common but not the octagonal shape? also the bark still on the stick. Also I could see a Japanese aesthetic ? in this piece . Last edited by Tim Simmons; 21st January 2021 at 05:07 PM.

21st January 2021, 05:02 PM	#7
AndreasM Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 9	As a curator of Japanese art I can tell you that there are no clubs of this shape or form in East Asia and certainly not in Japan.

21st January 2021, 05:22 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,855	Geometric shape inlay is common but have never seen an octagon.