keris oil

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by doecon

Some local (indonesian) Keris collectors and dealers use "Singer" oil, I have no idea where to get it, but it is supose to come from the sewing machine company. There is plenty alternatives as mentioned above, even gun oil can be used. Unfortunatly you will have to miss the nice mistik or cendana smell

"Singer" oil is just that, sewing machine oil that is made by Singer sewing machine co. If you use this it would be used as a base oil and scented essential oils would be added to it, so there is no reason why you would have to miss out on the cendana (sandalwood) as Doecon suggests, since it is easily obtainable. Rose and Jasimine are also sometimes used, but i prefer the less sweet varieties. What i would really like to find a source for is kenanga oil, which gives my favorite type of keris oil it's edge. If anyone knows a source for this oil please let me know.
I would stay away from coconut oil, even though it is traditionally used. It goes rancid rather easily. Mineral oil makes a very good base as does sewing machine oil. Just add your scented oils to the base oil. There are many references to keris oil on the forum, but i think it is mostly the old forum. Check out these threads:
http://www.vikingsword.com/cgi-bin/s...=37&StartAt=A:

[jarhead]

What i would really like to find a source for is kenanga oil, which gives my favorite type of keris oil it's edge. If anyone knows a source for this oil please let me know.




try this link: http://www.theherbalist.com/ylang_ylang_oil.html

[Lei Shen Dao]

http://www.cimandecombat.com/loudbabycart/index2.html
http://www.murnis.com/onlineshop/incense/index.htm

Take a look here. I have never tryied them, but you can try.

My favorite is a Madurese oil from a friend in Indonesia, that is very "heavy" in perfume (the keris smells for months with just some drops) and another one from Solo that is very rare and has some very strange ingredients during it's preparation).

If you believe in the esoteric aspect, use only natural oil.
If you find pure natural fragnant oil, you can put some water and fresh jasmine flowers for some days in a bottle in order to make it less "heavy" in substance.

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by jarhead

What i would really like to find a source for is kenanga oil, which gives my favorite type of keris oil it's edge. If anyone knows a source for this oil please let me know.

try this link: http://www.theherbalist.com/ylang_ylang_oil.html

Thanks Jarhead, but if kenanga is indeed ylang-ylang then i have no trouble finding it locally. Infact, i already have a bottle of the stuff in my essential oils collection.

[Rick]

I like Sandalwood oil myself .. pure .

[nechesh]

Don't you find it a little thick Rick? Love the smell....

[nechesh]

Well, i have been informed that while kananga and ylang-ylang come from the same family of plant that they are indeed different. A quick whiff from my ylang-ylang bottle comfirms this. So i am back to my starting point. If anyone knows where i can obtain Kenanga oil i would greatly appreciate it, thanks.

[lang]

Originally Posted by nechesh

Well, i have been informed that while kananga and ylang-ylang come from the same family of plant that they are indeed different. A quick whiff from my ylang-ylang bottle comfirms this. So i am back to my starting point. If anyone knows where i can obtain Kenanga oil i would greatly appreciate it, thanks.

I just wandered into this forum from Alan Maisey's page with whom I've done business for at least the last 15 years. I'm not quite as avid of a collector as I once was, but I am still greatly fascinated by ethnographic weaponry.

This is the only source of kenanga oil I've been able to find:
http://libertynatural.com/index.html They sell Cananga Odorata forma Macrophylla which, as far as I can discover, is the ylang-ylang subspecies known as kenanga oil. I did quite a bit of research on this topic while trying to copy Alan's keris oil recipe which primarily uses sandalwood and kenanga oil. I've never been completely satisfied with my results, however. I've purchased the kenanga oil from Liberty Natural and it is still very sweet. I"m not sure that I would be able to tell the difference between it and ylang-ylang (which I guess is not too surprising considering their extremely close kinship). I use very little of it and end up using mostly sandalwood oil. Because the kenanga oil is considered an inferior oil to the ylang-ylang, it is fortunately, quite inexpensive.

Hope that helps!

[Rick]

Originally Posted by nechesh

Don't you find it a little thick Rick? Love the smell....

It's a little thick but it stays on well .

I'm a little thick too .

[nechesh]

Originally Posted by Rick

It's a little thick but it stays on well .

I'm a little thick too .

No comment....

[BluErf]

Originally Posted by Rick

I like Sandalwood oil myself .. pure .

Oohhh... that's expensive... A 25g bottle here in Singapore cost me $45 2yrs back, and I could only bring myself to use it on my most special few kerises, diluted 1-for-1 with singer oil once every few months...

[Rick]

Hi Kai Wee , the stuff that I buy in the States is about half the price that you pay ; it's used for aromatherapy and comes in 15 ml bottles .

The company name is Aura Cacia out of California .

I only use it every few months ; about 5 drops per side is plenty .

[BSMStar]

Originally Posted by Rick

Hi Kai Wee , the stuff that I buy in the States is about half the price that you pay ; it's used for aromatherapy and comes in 15 ml bottles .

The company name is Aura Cacia out of California .

I only use it every few months ; about 5 drops per side is plenty .

Hey Rick, when was the last time you purchased from these folks....

They have a blend with Jojoba oil that is about 10 clams, but the the 15ml 100% is in the 45 clam range. To blend yourself can cost some serious clams.