Information on Javanese knife

kai · 20th May 2006, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doecon

And for sure he is not carying a Wedung.

Well, that's just an assertion. You may want to give some reasons why you think that the blade on the pic *surely* is a Jambea rather than a Wedung...

I've seen a few imported as well as some locally made varieties belonging to the diverse Jambiya blade family - none of these looked anything close to the piece shown on Raffles' pic though.

Regards,
Kai

doecon · 21st May 2006, 01:45 AM

On the first picture the sheath didnt look as a wedung type at all. Better pictures probably showed my wrong

Attatched picture of Wedung from around that time (1850's). Hilt is indeed the same, scabbard still looks a bit off.

Tim Simmons · 21st May 2006, 07:45 PM

Rather an extravagant shoe horn. Pretty pretty.

Mick · 21st May 2006, 08:34 PM

doecon

If you own that piece you have gotten a hold of one of the highest ranking wedungs that I have ever seen.

Naga Sasra · 21st May 2006, 10:06 PM

I fully concur with Mick, an extraordinary piece, and should you want you let it go

RobT · 21st May 2006, 11:43 PM

Hi all,
This is my straight blade version of the knife that started this thread. The two long cylinders that comprise the bulk of the grip of the hilt appear to be rhino. The spacers, as well as the baselard style crossguard and pommel, appear to be cowhorn. The washers between the horn are steel. The washer that separated the two rhino horn cylinders is missing. The blade and sheath decoration are identical to those on the curved blade version. Frankly, I would be surprised to find that these pieces were not northern African. I collect both African and Indonesian knives and swords and I don't see anything Indonesian in my piece.
Sincerely,
RobT

doecon · 22nd May 2006, 12:16 AM

RobT: Nice piece, clearly the same features as the one Zonneveld mentioned in his book?

Wedung posted above is not mine, sorry if I created any wrong impression.
Its in the Volkenkundig Museum in Leiden.

21st May 2006, 01:45 AM	#2
doecon Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 63	On the first picture the sheath didnt look as a wedung type at all. Better pictures probably showed my wrong Attatched picture of Wedung from around that time (1850's). Hilt is indeed the same, scabbard still looks a bit off. Attached Images

21st May 2006, 11:43 PM	#6
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 535	Rhino Hilt Parts? Hi all, This is my straight blade version of the knife that started this thread. The two long cylinders that comprise the bulk of the grip of the hilt appear to be rhino. The spacers, as well as the baselard style crossguard and pommel, appear to be cowhorn. The washers between the horn are steel. The washer that separated the two rhino horn cylinders is missing. The blade and sheath decoration are identical to those on the curved blade version. Frankly, I would be surprised to find that these pieces were not northern African. I collect both African and Indonesian knives and swords and I don't see anything Indonesian in my piece. Sincerely, RobT Attached Images

21st May 2006, 07:45 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Rather an extravagant shoe horn. Pretty pretty.

21st May 2006, 08:34 PM	#4
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	doecon If you own that piece you have gotten a hold of one of the highest ranking wedungs that I have ever seen.

21st May 2006, 10:06 PM	#5
Naga Sasra Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boca Raton, Florida, USA Posts: 108	I fully concur with Mick, an extraordinary piece, and should you want you let it go

22nd May 2006, 12:16 AM	#7
doecon Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 63	RobT: Nice piece, clearly the same features as the one Zonneveld mentioned in his book? Wedung posted above is not mine, sorry if I created any wrong impression. Its in the Volkenkundig Museum in Leiden.