British dragoon sword

kronckew · 18th October 2020, 10:13 AM

You're welcome!

As we dusicussed earlier, in another thread, I have a Revolutionary war American Dragoon sword repurposed from a French Dragoon one of the period that had the side bars removed leaving the 4 slot hand-guard part... Would have suited Mel's Left handed French Grenadier companion.

link: American or British?

Jim McDougall · 12th December 2022, 06:05 PM

Interesting example Wayne! and now I wonder more on the 'four slot' guard, as I continue always wondering more on the development of these features and elements in sword hilts.
Here I go back to the blade form on many of the straight blade dragoon types and and on my example (OP) which has a rather 'clipped' point, as mentioned shown in Seifert (1962) as a 'pandour' point.

It is of course well known that the British cavalry was profoundly influenced by Hungarian cavalry and weapons (via the French where there were numbers of these forces often present) in the mid 18th century. The exploits of the dreaded pandours had become well known, and it would seem these curiously pointed blades had become applied to some blades used on these British swords.

The point on mine is of course not as dramatic as in the illustration, nor the other example, but the illustration does seem to give the impression the points of these swords were notably contrary to those usually seen.

18th October 2020, 10:13 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,249	You're welcome! As we dusicussed earlier, in another thread, I have a Revolutionary war American Dragoon sword repurposed from a French Dragoon one of the period that had the side bars removed leaving the 4 slot hand-guard part... Would have suited Mel's Left handed French Grenadier companion. link: American or British? Attached Images

12th December 2022, 06:05 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,581	Interesting example Wayne! and now I wonder more on the 'four slot' guard, as I continue always wondering more on the development of these features and elements in sword hilts. Here I go back to the blade form on many of the straight blade dragoon types and and on my example (OP) which has a rather 'clipped' point, as mentioned shown in Seifert (1962) as a 'pandour' point. It is of course well known that the British cavalry was profoundly influenced by Hungarian cavalry and weapons (via the French where there were numbers of these forces often present) in the mid 18th century. The exploits of the dreaded pandours had become well known, and it would seem these curiously pointed blades had become applied to some blades used on these British swords. The point on mine is of course not as dramatic as in the illustration, nor the other example, but the illustration does seem to give the impression the points of these swords were notably contrary to those usually seen. Attached Images