eBay keris... are these Kraton pieces?

[Alam Shah]

Hi doecon,

No issues with a) .

b) Yes, it can be called an assumption. If I would know where Wuryadara Karyapa lived it wouldn’t be (see name description on the back).

Until it becomes a fact, it still remains an assumption, right?

c) Was b) see before. And yes the description mentioned that the handle was probably added later. Now idea why a solo style hilt was used.

That is what I was wondering. Just a thought.

d) I’m not implying anything. The title mentioned the word Keraton, the description explains why.

Generally, that would give hints suggesting that it is? But not possibly pointing that it may not be?

Of course I’m not assuming that all keris dressed in pendok with keraton insigne are actually being Keraton keris. I don’t see I said anything like that ?

Oppss! That would be an assumption on my part. Sorry.

However, regarding older pendok (1800’s with fine silver carving work in this case) I think its save to believe that there is a link between the holder of the keris and the Keraton.

This is an assumption, right?

In case a seller gives wrong information with the purpose of increasing the “value” of his items, I would call it misleading (please do compare our descriptions with others).

I'm not implying that your information is wrong? Correct me if I'm wrong. As a seller, your integrity is at stake, when you present an opinion/assumption as fact.

I’m being pretty much straightforward about my blades, I don’t lie about age or material used. So if something is old we will add that, if something is new or recent, you will clearly see that in the descriptions.

Age is still assumptions, so its still subjective. How can one be so certain about this. Probable age is one thing, being so certain of the age is another.

On top of that I try to put as many pictures as possible, so everybody can see for themselves.

Pictures on eBay is like a myopic person looking without their glasses. Another words the quality is often bad without clear zoom functions or hi-res pictures.

Regarding origin and provenance we can’t always be sure. For most blades complete information about former owners is missing, simply unknown or unclear. In my opinion it can not be called “misleading” in case you try to fill in some information about the items history.

Actually, I'm being specific with these 2 examples and not your entire lot. What I'm asking is still, are these Keraton or Palace Guard pieces.

Thank you for responding.