Old mamluk style hilt and mounts

[Peter Andeweg]

An interesting set. Looking at the ends of the quillons, I believe it could be French, influenced by the Egyptian campaign of Napoleon. The hilt resembles more to a camel then an eagle or phoenix to me. Parts like these were likely mounted on a presentation saber. The human face on the guard looks mythical, Ancient Greek origin perhaps, a popular fashion during the empire period.
An interesting set!

Peter

[Victrix]

Originally Posted by Peter Andeweg

An interesting set. Looking at the ends of the quillons, I believe it could be French, influenced by the Egyptian campaign of Napoleon. The hilt resembles more to a camel then an eagle or phoenix to me. Parts like these were likely mounted on a presentation saber. The human face on the guard looks mythical, Ancient Greek origin perhaps, a popular fashion during the empire period.
An interesting set!

Peter

Agree. Eagles don’t have ears. Looks more like a camel or llama? Something with fur. A small chain was attached from its mouth to the guard.

[Philip]

Originally Posted by Victrix

Agree. Eagles don’t have ears.

Yes, at least not external ones like beagles do. I'm sure these birds are capable of hearing, though.

[francantolin]

Originally Posted by Philip

Yes, at least not external ones like beagles do. I'm sure these birds are capable of hearing, though.

Sure, they have ears holes like us and the one through his mouth !

[Victrix]

Originally Posted by Philip

Yes, at least not external ones like beagles do. I'm sure these birds are capable of hearing, though.

I think you know what I mean. Sure eagles have hearing organs which are not clearly visible on the outside.

If the creature was a griffin it would have an eagle’s beak but it looks more like a muzzle to me.

[francantolin]

Hello Victrix,

Not a perfect griffin but not a muzzle.
A bird, maybe more a vulture beak shape...

Does anybody know if the decorations on the scabbard mounts represent something special ?

Kind regards

[Victrix]

The Hungarians have a mythical bird called Turul which is a falcon/hawk. https://szerveto.com/szer-veto/symbo...mythical-turul
The pommel could represent its head and its body could be represented folklore style on the scabbard. The items might then have been part of a 19thC Hungarian cultural or magnate’s sabre? Hungary was part of the Roman province of Pannonia and Hungarians like to include Roman symbolism.

[sabertasche]

Hi all, the mounts appear to be Austro-Hungarian in origin for a so called "Magnent's" sword. I think it is a version of court sword for minor nobles. They appear in a multitude of shapes and sizes, the only limit being how much you wanted to spend. Here's mine, a lovely sword, Austro-Hungarian mounts in silver with a French (probably) blade.

The markings are a silver assay mark for Vienna and maker's mark. My sword dates to 1840 but I've not been able to identify the maker. The hilt, quillon, and all the scabbard mounts all have the same markings.

Regards,

Greg