New Keris Owner

scatteredminds · 17th May 2006, 04:04 AM

Your right Rick. Let the learning begin!

Alam Shah · 17th May 2006, 05:00 AM

Welcome scatteredminds,

Like the rest of the gang, awaiting for clearer pictures.

Kai,
Afaik, blade standing on it's tip have 2 methods. The physics method, like you mentioned, balancing on its tip with no magic required and the esoteric method supposedly from horizontal position rising up to a vertical position.

Btw, congrats Kai on your new bahari... a lovely blade.

scatteredminds,
If your sister witnessed the esoteric method, then esoterically speaking, the blade might have been 'imbued' to enable it to stand. This is normally done to demonstrate that the blade had been given supernatural capabilities. Referenced from Bambang Hasrinuksmo's book, it is said that the so-called 'imbued power' might be for a specific purpose.

Now, for an example of the balancing act method, follow the link.
http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php

Hope it helps. Btw, the keris looks like a good keris to me.

kai · 17th May 2006, 11:33 AM

Hello Alam Shah,

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Afaik, blade standing on it's tip have 2 methods. The physics method, like you mentioned, balancing on its tip with no magic required and the esoteric method supposedly from horizontal position rising up to a vertical position.

So, has anyone of the esteemed forumites witnessed that esoteric method in action?

Quote:

Btw, congrats Kai on your new bahari... a lovely blade.

Thanks! I'm kinda sorry that Adni and I were so close. (OTOH, I've been overbid by a few cents once...)

BTW, you also got a great deal on that MK patrem, I think...

Please post pics once it arrives!

Regards,
Kai

nechesh · 17th May 2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

Hello Alam Shah,
So, has anyone of the esteemed forumites witnessed that esoteric method in action?

Kai, even if i were to see the "esoteric" method performed i would remain highly skeptical. I have the pleasure of knowing a few good stage magicians. Any of them could easily accomplish this as an illustion with very little preparation.
Understand that i am a great believer in the esoteric and magick. But i have also seen an extraordinary amount of charlatans in this field. I am automatically wary of anyone who feels the need to do tricks with a keris to "prove" it's esoteric powers.

Alam Shah · 17th May 2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

So, has anyone of the esteemed forumites witnessed that esoteric method in action?

Well, I haven't seen any.

But then as Nechesh said, even if you have, it's still "remain highly skeptical". I will not ponder on the esoteric part...it's quite subjective. Let's ponder into the balancing aspect, it's quite interesting and fun.

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BTW, you also got a great deal on that MK patrem, I think...

Please post pics once it arrives!

Just collected it today. I guess it's a good deal. Will post it in a new thread. Something to ask.

Alam Shah

sabertasche · 17th May 2006, 07:42 PM

Ok guys, why would I want to balance my keris? This is the first time I've heard of this. What is the cutural/religious.mystical significance of this? I only have 1 keris in my collection. Although to my eyes it is a thing of beauty, I had not considered any mystical attributes. Should I??

Greg

Rick · 17th May 2006, 11:05 PM

Greg , I think that is a matter for each collector to decide on his own .

Either you believe or you don't .

Scattered ; waiting on those pics ....

scatteredminds · 18th May 2006, 03:06 AM

Here are some more pictures.

17th May 2006, 05:00 AM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Standing/Balancing keris... Welcome scatteredminds, Like the rest of the gang, awaiting for clearer pictures. Kai, Afaik, blade standing on it's tip have 2 methods. The physics method, like you mentioned, balancing on its tip with no magic required and the esoteric method supposedly from horizontal position rising up to a vertical position. Btw, congrats Kai on your new bahari... a lovely blade. scatteredminds, If your sister witnessed the esoteric method, then esoterically speaking, the blade might have been 'imbued' to enable it to stand. This is normally done to demonstrate that the blade had been given supernatural capabilities. Referenced from Bambang Hasrinuksmo's book, it is said that the so-called 'imbued power' might be for a specific purpose. Now, for an example of the balancing act method, follow the link. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_album.php Hope it helps. Btw, the keris looks like a good keris to me. Last edited by Alam Shah; 17th May 2006 at 07:52 AM.

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	The Esoteric Greg , I think that is a matter for each collector to decide on his own . Either you believe or you don't . Scattered ; waiting on those pics ....

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scatteredminds Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	Here are some more pictures. Attached Images

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scatteredminds Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	Your right Rick. Let the learning begin!

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sabertasche Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 149	Ok guys, why would I want to balance my keris? This is the first time I've heard of this. What is the cutural/religious.mystical significance of this? I only have 1 keris in my collection. Although to my eyes it is a thing of beauty, I had not considered any mystical attributes. Should I?? Greg