Small Keris with interesting handle

Marcokeris · 27th July 2020, 07:47 AM

another one

RSWORD · 27th July 2020, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcokeris

another one

Thank you for sharing. Very nice.

David · 28th July 2020, 02:48 AM

Another interesting item. The hilt has a simplistic beauty. But again, as Alan has pointed out, not a keris.

Green · 29th July 2020, 03:29 PM

the writing says

Ya Allah
Ya Muhammad
Ya nabi (prophet)

on the other side is a a verse from the Qur'an sura 36: 58

Peace (Salam) fron a lord most merciful.

This sura is considered to be the 'heart' of the Quran and is recited when people are in situation of great stress or when a person is at near death . And recited after a person is dead.

The verse 58 is a very wellknown one and often repeated as a form of prayer.

This is quite interesting. a fusion of hindu figure with muslim prayer...

A. G. Maisey · 29th July 2020, 07:43 PM

Iki Jowo.

Sajen · 29th July 2020, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Iki Jowo.

Hello Alan,

Only our Javanese friends will understand what you mean.

So far I know it's Javanese and mean Javanese Style. Agree complete!

Regards,
Detlef

PS: Just see that I was wrong!

David · 29th July 2020, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Green

This is quite interesting. a fusion of hindu figure with muslim prayer...

As i believe Alan was pointing out in his last post (Iki Jowo), this is a fairly common occurrence for Jawa. The influence of past cultures that once dominated the area remain and are mixed and synthesized for present day Islam.

RSWORD · 30th July 2020, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Green

the writing says

Ya Allah
Ya Muhammad
Ya nabi (prophet)

on the other side is a a verse from the Qur'an sura 36: 58

Peace (Salam) fron a lord most merciful.

This sura is considered to be the 'heart' of the Quran and is recited when people are in situation of great stress or when a person is at near death . And recited after a person is dead.

The verse 58 is a very wellknown one and often repeated as a form of prayer.

This is quite interesting. a fusion of hindu figure with muslim prayer...

Thank you for the translation. It is much appreciated.

A. G. Maisey · 30th July 2020, 09:15 PM

"Iki Jowo" = "This is Java".

If we were to be using Bahasa Indonesia it would be:- "Ini Jawa"

and this sort of thing is truly Java;- layer after layer after layer of societal/cultural/religious style and belief.

With Java it has never been a matter of "instead of", it has always been "as well as".

The Javanese person has in his heart the standards and beliefs of his indigenous ancestors, over which are layers of Hindu/Buddhist/Muslim and sometimes even Christian belief.

One can never have too many Gods, nor too many layers of protection.

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Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	another one Attached Images

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David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Another interesting item. The hilt has a simplistic beauty. But again, as Alan has pointed out, not a keris.

29th July 2020, 03:29 PM	#4
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 321	the writing says Ya Allah Ya Muhammad Ya nabi (prophet) on the other side is a a verse from the Qur'an sura 36: 58 Peace (Salam) fron a lord most merciful. This sura is considered to be the 'heart' of the Quran and is recited when people are in situation of great stress or when a person is at near death . And recited after a person is dead. The verse 58 is a very wellknown one and often repeated as a form of prayer. This is quite interesting. a fusion of hindu figure with muslim prayer...

29th July 2020, 07:43 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Iki Jowo.

30th July 2020, 09:15 PM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	"Iki Jowo" = "This is Java". If we were to be using Bahasa Indonesia it would be:- "Ini Jawa" and this sort of thing is truly Java;- layer after layer after layer of societal/cultural/religious style and belief. With Java it has never been a matter of "instead of", it has always been "as well as". The Javanese person has in his heart the standards and beliefs of his indigenous ancestors, over which are layers of Hindu/Buddhist/Muslim and sometimes even Christian belief. One can never have too many Gods, nor too many layers of protection.