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23rd June 2020, 10:20 PM
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our dearest friends in Mexico were in Precolumbian times already very familiar with sword & club like weapons
like the Aztec's Macuahuitl ( the one with feathers called 'hungry wood') and a similar one from the Maya's ( called 'blade runner") Hence they had no issue replacing it in later times by the machete. Incorporated into a dance on Mariachi music. Like these Native Americans from Mexico in the 1st YouTube film Don't try this at home... unless you finish a bottle of Mescal .... and eat the worm.... arriba....andele https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esRnl2PlxzA and if your name is not Speedy Gonzales..., you can always start like this little muchacho  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ykp-YVpGPU Last edited by gp; 24th June 2020 at 02:50 PM. |
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3rd September 2020, 10:33 PM
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a Tamil dance from India 1949 with knives @ 1:40 min. by the Travancore Sisters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUpgOmxdFI |
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3rd September 2020, 10:56 PM
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in the Netherlands there is a big Mollucan community, most from the Southern Islands like (Ambon), but each with their own traditions and cultural variety
Hereby 3 examples from the Northern Islands being wardances : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEi2zZsxIlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umgOUzzQtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WGMCfupIxg Fierce not only by their looks but these men were fierce as warriors as well, a picture of WW II and one from 1874 in Atjeh Last edited by gp; 4th September 2020 at 01:41 AM. |
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7th September 2020, 03:55 PM
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Scottish sword dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZCT8H-Hpbc Georgian dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OsAsJejxJY Korean sword dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJfefdr2Gc Dance from Bougainville Island https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AEbo53SHo Indonesian Barong dance (from 6:20) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5O8gnQh5Po Aceh knife dance (final part of the clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvClxcLqxpc And another (from around 29:30) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcbwZaDVM0 Last edited by mariusgmioc; 7th September 2020 at 04:25 PM. |
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9th September 2020, 07:37 AM
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Dance for Ogun.
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28th September 2020, 11:30 PM
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War Dance in Congo of the Ba Mongo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFT-TeUrP4 the Konda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koQ0ynPZQGA and the Kuba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oStCNLZBjUM Last edited by gp; 28th September 2020 at 11:50 PM. |
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3rd October 2020, 04:16 PM
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10th October 2021, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63lrcH-hJU&t=38s Last edited by gp; 10th October 2021 at 11:43 PM. |
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11th October 2021, 02:09 PM
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Ainu sword dance
It takes some time for swords to take part https://youtu.be/ynS955uVKqc https://youtu.be/x9Lr4hVd7Ys https://youtu.be/b8ECF5kpHe8 |
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14th June 2022, 11:22 PM
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courtesy to ariel who pointed me to a zeibek yataghan and the zeibek warriors.
Zeybeks, or sometimes Zeibeks /Greek: Ζεϊμπέκοι Zeibekoi; Ottoman Turkish: زیبك, romanized: zeybek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udRl7lsvtj0 by the way, the "eagle"movements are also to be found in the Caucasus peoples dance lezginka (Lezgisch: Лезги кьуьл; Russian: лезгинка; Azeri: Ləzgihəngi; Ossetian: тымбыл кафт, зилгæ кафт) where men stand for / symbolize the eagle and the women for the swan in their movements FYI: at 2:03 min the 2nd dance starts and the title mentions "ince"which means hawk in Turkish Clearly can also be recognized by the swift flying movements ( of a hawk) which differ from an eagle's Last edited by gp; 15th June 2022 at 12:28 AM. |
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12th July 2022, 11:05 PM
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courtesey to Ren Ren who wrote "In particular, the knife, persistently referred to as "surmene", is called the "circumpontian knife" (циркумпонтийский нож). This term is derived from the Greek word "Pont" (short for "Pont Euxin" - the Black Sea) and the Latin "circum" - around."
I stumbled again... upon something interesting and adding to the complexity of the Laz(istan) discussion.....this dance : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM45-Ao82zg now the dance's name "horon" originates from the Greek language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horon_(dance) and here "Pontus"is mentioned...with reference to the above https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontus_(region) which takes us again to Lazistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazistan and its people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laz_people and takes us to another dance.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftBHKwy52bA |
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