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Old 19th June 2020, 10:46 AM   #1
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After some gentle cleaning. I like to uncover some glint of steel again.
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Old 19th June 2020, 12:45 PM   #2
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In the yearbook of the "Bernisches Histortisches Mueseum 1932, you can fin the mark in question under number 1503, unfortunately without a foto of the pole arm
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In the yearbook of the "Bernisches Histortisches Mueseum 1932, you can fin the mark in question under number 1503, unfortunately without a foto of the pole arm
I think it more likely the mark of Pankraz Taller in Bad Hall, Upper Austria. The halberd was purchased in Austria.
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A similar halberd with St. Andrews cross and trefoils appears in Ivan Kovac’s book ”Ubojite Ostrice” (Gornja Stubica, 2003) listed as Venetian 1580-90. I’m not aware of Venice being associated with St. Andrew which is typically associated with Scotland or Burgundy/Spain.

Another similar halberd is in the history museum of Celje in Slovenia. Not sure if the Counts of Celje used the St. Andrews cross.
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Also my halberd, said to have been forged by Pankraz Thaller, has the three holes set. The smith's mark is a bit blurred, but Dittrich Reinhart from Landeszeughaus Graz museum came to such conclusion. No Saint Andrew's cross, though.
Why do say your example is not munitions grade ? Are the edges not sharp ?


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Also my halberd, said to have been forged by Pankraz Thaller, has the three holes set. The smith's mark is a bit blurred, but Dittrich Reinhart from Landeszeughaus Graz museum came to such conclusion. No Saint Andrew's cross, though.
Why do say your example is not munitions grade ? Are the edges not sharp ?


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Maybe it is fairly munitions grade. It’s sharpened. I just thought the design is fairly elaborate so thought it might be used mainly for guard duty. But the more ceremonial examples can be more or less fully covered with gilt etchings which this clearly is not. It’s also quite large in terms of size. I understand the St.Andrews cross is also sometimes called a saltire, in the world of heraldics at least.

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