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Old 8th June 2020, 06:38 PM   #1
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(imho) the second one is a type called: GANA-hilt
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Old 8th June 2020, 07:51 PM   #2
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(imho) the second one is a type called: GANA-hilt
I think that both can get called gana!
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Old 8th June 2020, 08:02 PM   #3
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Sirek, good call. If the wood hilt is Gana wouldn't the marine ivory hilt be Gana as well? Couldn't Gana be an abstract representation of an idea the carver is trying to convey, or conversely is the Gana style intended to be a void that the mind of the viewer fills with meaning, or option 3 is it that the viewer through an abstract form perceives what the object itself is or wishes itself to be?
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Old 8th June 2020, 08:03 PM   #4
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Thanks Sajen you answered my question while I typed it
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Old 8th June 2020, 08:07 PM   #5
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Old 8th June 2020, 08:32 PM   #6
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Here is an example in my collection. It's a type I've seen in other collections also. When I remember correct is the prominent backbone an attribute of this hilts.

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Old 8th June 2020, 08:58 PM   #7
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Here for comparison an other Palembang hilt.
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Old 8th June 2020, 10:18 PM   #8
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Very nice hilts! .... but about these kind of gana-top hilts: how many sumatran handles are there with this identical shape? I've seen dozens of them and I find strange that Nature offers so many tops almost perfectly equal
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