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			Thank you Mark! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Actually we are not digressing from the outstanding cuphilt Fernando has posted in the OP, but discussing various avenues toward classification and identifying it. Often a great deal of related material and comparisons, regardless of even tenuous observations, clues can be found in most unusual places! Interesting about the contrived examples I mentioned with the odd crossguard UNDER the cup being cataloged as 'pirate' ![]() I have one of these which was found with this seemingly cliche' classification as well (need to find pics of it).  | 
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