10th May 2020, 01:17 PM | #1 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Sunda golok variations
Hello dear members,
I have assembled some Sunda golok in the last few years, in the past they don't have been from great interest for me. I have to state that this are very well worked blades and I doubt that only one of the shown examples are worked for those who travel. I will show them piece by piece with a short description. |
10th May 2020, 01:32 PM | #2 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
The possible oldest example in the collection, I would guess last quarter of the 19th century. Laminated blade, handle horn, carved as stylized makara, pierced through carved, low grade silver or mamas ferrule, scabbard two wooden slabs, two fine wooven rotan bands still present, scabbard mouth horn, foot (possible form from gobang scabbards) is missing.
58,5 cm inside scabbard, 55,8cm without, blade 42,5 cm, 9 mm thick at the base. |
10th May 2020, 01:47 PM | #3 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Second example I would place to the first quarter of the 20th century, very well worked example in all parts. Laminated blade razor sharp after I've polished out surface rust, handle horn with bone spacers, very fine and pierced through carved, shows as well a stylized makara, note the lying bird in up!, scabbard wood from two glued parts, scabbard mouth horn.
60,5 cm inside scabbard, 58 cm without, blade 41,5 cm and 7 mm thick at the base. |
10th May 2020, 01:58 PM | #4 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
An example without scabbard, a piece which has seen extreme use, I would place it also at the first quarter of the 20th century, not sure about the blade but think it's laminated, very nice carved horn handle show makara. Bone inlayed eyes.
49,5 cm, blade 37 cm and 5 mm thick at base. |
10th May 2020, 02:10 PM | #5 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
An example wich I would place to the second quarter of the 20th century. The surprisingly very well worked blade seems laminated, handle horn, simple carved as parrot head, wooden scabbard halfs hold from horn mouth piece and foot, horn bands around and a belt loop also from horn.
50 cm inside scabbard, 46 cm without, blade 33,5 cm and 8,5 mm thick at base. |
10th May 2020, 02:21 PM | #6 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
An example either from second or third quarter of the 20th century, well worked but rough finished blade, unsure about the material, marked, note the spanish notch, handle from horn show a makara form, inlaid eyes, wooden scabbard halfs hold from several metal bands and foot, scabbard mouth from horn.
57 cm inside scabbard, 56,5 cm without, blade 42 cm and 6,5 mm thick at the base. Last edited by Sajen; 10th May 2020 at 03:41 PM. Reason: add pictures |
10th May 2020, 02:39 PM | #7 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
An example in the style which is most desired, easy to date, it's from 1909, handle and scabbard from wood, handle some form of makara, very well worked blade.
63 cm inside scabbard, 55 cm without, blade 40 cm and 8,5 mm thick at the base. |
10th May 2020, 02:41 PM | #8 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Overview!
|
10th May 2020, 08:25 PM | #9 | |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 194
|
Bird of prey
Quote:
|
|
10th May 2020, 08:31 PM | #10 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
Regards, Detlef |
|
10th May 2020, 10:02 PM | #11 |
Vikingsword Staff
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,290
|
The White Bellied Sea Eagle is found in the area these goloks originate from; I agree with Albert that it is a raptor and certainly resembles an eagle's head. One of the animals that they prey upon is the poisonous Sea Snake. There might be some symbolism there to account for the use of the head of these birds as a decoration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-bellied_sea_eagle I have a golok like this one we're discussing; the blade is a bit shorter at 13" and Tjikeroeh is spelled out rather than abbreviated; mine has no date. Last edited by Rick; 10th May 2020 at 10:20 PM. |
11th May 2020, 05:06 PM | #12 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 232
|
Very interesting, Detlef! Thanks for sharing!
/Stefan |
11th May 2020, 07:12 PM | #13 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Thank you all!
I've attached by each piece a picture from the scabbard mouth since I think it's typical for Sunda. Regards, Detlef |
13th May 2020, 05:42 PM | #14 |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Poole England
Posts: 443
|
A couple of relatives. I have quite a few of this size and style. These are the only two with eagle hilts. Dark hilt is horn dated 1940, the light is wood 1930.
Regards Roy |
13th May 2020, 06:29 PM | #15 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Hello Roy,
Thank you for posting this two nice examples, a similar one is now on my wish list! When you don't mind feel free to post your other examples as well! Regards, Detlef |
13th May 2020, 06:55 PM | #16 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 165
|
In the same family as the third in the original post. But a blade variant. Would we still call this a Sunda Golok? I hadn’t held one before this. And I wasn’t able to put it down when I picked it up. Great craftsmanship overall. Cheers
|
13th May 2020, 07:05 PM | #17 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
Regards, Detlef |
|
13th May 2020, 10:47 PM | #18 |
Vikingsword Staff
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Aussie Bush
Posts: 4,194
|
Hi Detlef:
There is a related family of golok and sword versions that have European style hilts and also bear the name of Tjikeroeh or Cipitang. These appear to have been made for the Dutch Colonial/European markets and have been discussed here previously. Typically, these relatives come in plain black wooden scabbards with brass chape and locket. Some of them have clipped blades resembling the "Dutch klewang" used by colonial troops. Dated examples indicate manufacture at the end of the 19th and early 20th C, up to the 1930s. Ian |
15th May 2020, 07:41 PM | #19 |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Poole England
Posts: 443
|
SOME MORE
Hi Detlef,
Here are some of them all of similar size. I am not certain that they are all from Sunda, but they are similar. |
16th May 2020, 09:45 AM | #20 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
Yes, I know them, thank you for connect the two threads! Regards, Detlef |
|
16th May 2020, 09:57 AM | #21 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
I think that not all are of Sunda manufacture, the down one at the second picture for example, I personally can't place it exactly. On the third and fourth picture I also doubt that these examples of Sunda origin, one has an handle I've seen by rawits. The other one maybe Banjarmasin origin? The one on the right at the fifth picture I guess is of Malay origin. The one on the last picture look a little bit Visayan!? But a big bulk is indeed from Sunda IMVHO. Regards, Detlef |
|
20th June 2020, 12:22 PM | #22 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
This two examples will enter the collection soon!
|
20th June 2020, 12:42 PM | #23 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Greenville, NC
Posts: 1,857
|
Some really impressive pieces! I bet you are having trouble finding space for so many blades...like me!
|
20th June 2020, 02:45 PM | #24 | ||
Member
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 3,254
|
Hello Detlef & Charles!
Quote:
Close-ups of the inscription on the last one would be good! Quote:
Regards, Kai |
||
20th June 2020, 09:51 PM | #25 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
Regards, Detlef |
|
20th June 2020, 09:57 PM | #26 | ||
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
Thank you as well. Have attached a picture from the auction house, will post a better one when I have the piece in my hands! Quote:
Regards, Detlef |
||
27th June 2020, 11:34 AM | #27 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Another one will enter the collection. Note the different handle style.
Last edited by Sajen; 27th June 2020 at 11:59 AM. |
12th August 2020, 01:10 PM | #28 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
|
|
12th August 2020, 01:24 PM | #29 | |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
Quote:
Unusual is the handle which show indeed Makara instead of the usual seen bird of prey. It's 66,5 cm long inside scabbard, 59,5 cm without, blade is approx. 44 cm and 9 mm thick behind the handle. A very well worked blade! |
|
12th August 2020, 01:28 PM | #30 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
|
A few more pictures.
|
|
|