Luzon Batangas bolo?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by xasterix

Hi Detlef. This sword is from Cavite based on its hilt. That's Cavite's signature hilt. I don't know the name of the blade profile though.

Hi Xas,

Thank you very much! Great to know that this hilt style is Cavite!

Just for the sake of my understanding, when I understand you correct is the sword in up from the one in question also fitted with a Cavite style handle?

Thank you again and my best regards,
Detlef

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Xas,

Thank you very much! Great to know that this hilt style is Cavite!

Just for the sake of my understanding, when I understand you correct is the sword in up from the one in question also fitted with a Cavite style handle?

Thank you again and my best regards,
Detlef

Yes, also Cavite. But I believe the albino horn (just a guess, I'm not a good identifier of hilt material) is older. The top sword is interesting ; may I see its scabbard?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by xasterix

Yes, also Cavite. But I believe the albino horn (just a guess, I'm not a good identifier of hilt material) is older. The top sword is interesting ; may I see its scabbard?

First of all, thank you for a great information!

The handle material by the one which started this thread I would describe as green horn. The spine is near the handle 8,4 mm thick and has an interesting marking there, see picture.
The upper one in the last two pictures has a handle from kamagong, ferrule is iron, like by the other one, spine thickness near the handle is 12,3 mm (!).

Sadly are both without scabbard. Would you call the blade shape by the upper one dinahong palay?

Best,
Detlef

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by Sajen

First of all, thank you for a great information!

The handle material by the one which started this thread I would describe as green horn. The spine is near the handle 8,4 mm thick and has an interesting marking there, see picture.
The upper one in the last two pictures has a handle from kamagong, ferrule is iron, like by the other one, spine thickness near the handle is 12,3 mm (!).

Sadly are both without scabbard. Would you call the blade shape by the upper one dinahong palay?

Best,
Detlef

No problem on the lack of scabbard. I would think the blade profile is closer to what is called as "dinahong buho" or "dahong buo" by the Tagalog-speaking towns. Here's a modern sample from one of those towns. The blade tip terminates either at center, or at the upper part.

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Xas,

Thank you very much! Great to know that this hilt style is Cavite!

Just for the sake of my understanding, when I understand you correct is the sword in up from the one in question also fitted with a Cavite style handle?

Thank you again and my best regards,
Detlef

Hi Detlef. Necro'ing this because I felt the need to correct my past self lol.

Regarding your four swords, from top to bottom, I would now classify these as:

Laguna uhas tari
Quezon dahong palay
Batangas or Cavite dahong bolo
Pampanga tulipas

Hope this helps!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by xasterix

Hi Detlef. Necro'ing this because I felt the need to correct my past self lol.

Regarding your four swords, from top to bottom, I would now classify these as:

Laguna uhas tari
Quezon dahong palay
Batangas or Cavite dahong bolo
Pampanga tulipas

Hope this helps!

Hi Xas,

Great information! Thank you very much.

You are a real asset to the forum!

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

There is another sword in this group, would you be so kind to classify this one as well?

Regards,
Detlef

[chmorshuutz]

In present-day nomenclature, the uppermost two would be called "sinungot ulang" (lobster snout) or "sinungot hipon" (shrimp snout). The third and fourth one would be "dahong palay". The one at the bottom seems to be "buntot palos" (eel's tail).

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by chmorshuutz

In present-day nomenclature, the uppermost two would be called "sinungot ulang" (lobster snout) or "sinungot hipon" (shrimp snout). The third and fourth one would be "dahong palay". The one at the bottom seems to be "buntot palos" (eel's tail).

Thank you!

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by Sajen

There is another sword in this group, would you be so kind to classify this one as well?

Regards,
Detlef

Halloo Detlef, that's a pretty curious bolo @.@ may I request more pics of it, thanks!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by xasterix

Halloo Detlef, that's a pretty curious bolo @.@ may I request more pics of it, thanks!

Here you go! When you need more pictures please let me know.

61,5 cm overall, blade 44 cm, 7 mm thick at the spine direct after the handle.

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Here you go! When you need more pictures please let me know.

61,5 cm overall, blade 44 cm, 7 mm thick at the spine direct after the handle.

Thanks for the pictures! I would assess this to be from Quezon as well based on the hilt. Although...the blade profile features, I commonly see that associated with Rizal area. So it's either a whole Quezon piece, or a combo build between two Tagalog areas.