Algerian Long Gun

Oliver Pinchot · 5th May 2020, 03:44 AM

It's a variant of the Taouzilt form. Flintlock mechanism isn't particularly common but after the British negotiated virtually free trade with the Moroccan sultan in the 1840s, the type became more available. Nice carving.

kahnjar1 · 5th May 2020, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver Pinchot

It's a variant of the Taouzilt form. Flintlock mechanism isn't particularly common but after the British negotiated virtually free trade with the Moroccan sultan in the 1840s, the type became more available. Nice carving.

Thanks for the clarification Oliver. So this gun is Moroccan rather than Algerian?
Stu

corrado26 · 5th May 2020, 07:21 AM

The lock is certainly not of French style but a British Brown Bess lock that has been decorated

Philip · 6th May 2020, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

The lock is certainly not of French style but a British Brown Bess lock that has been decorated

Agreed, but I think the profile of the tail end of the lockplate is a bit too pointed for a Brown Bess lock. However, it could have well been reshaped when it was decorated and adapted for installation on this gun.

Kubur · 6th May 2020, 08:24 AM

Hi Rick,
Another nice gun!
I agree with you, this one is not Algerian nor Moroccan...

Norman McCormick · 6th May 2020, 10:24 AM

Hi Rick,
Just a thought, I have no idea re the lock and barrel but the stock appears to me to be circa 17thC European. Here is a photo of my European snaphaunce circa 1700 albeit with probably a later lock but the similarities are there. Both have holes where sling mounts would be although yours now has side rings and the butt has the same type of holes where a butt plate would have been attached these together with the overall shape and carving do suggest to me a European manufacture for the stock. I also think originally the stock would have housed a shorter barrel probably not much longer than the the stock itself.
Hope you are keeping well in these unusual times.
My Regards,
Norman.

Norman McCormick · 6th May 2020, 02:06 PM

Butt end comparison if you'll pardon the phraseology.
Regards,
Norman.

5th May 2020, 03:44 AM	#1
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 464	It's a variant of the Taouzilt form. Flintlock mechanism isn't particularly common but after the British negotiated virtually free trade with the Moroccan sultan in the 1840s, the type became more available. Nice carving. Last edited by Oliver Pinchot; 5th May 2020 at 05:24 AM.

6th May 2020, 10:24 AM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Rick, Just a thought, I have no idea re the lock and barrel but the stock appears to me to be circa 17thC European. Here is a photo of my European snaphaunce circa 1700 albeit with probably a later lock but the similarities are there. Both have holes where sling mounts would be although yours now has side rings and the butt has the same type of holes where a butt plate would have been attached these together with the overall shape and carving do suggest to me a European manufacture for the stock. I also think originally the stock would have housed a shorter barrel probably not much longer than the the stock itself. Hope you are keeping well in these unusual times. My Regards, Norman. Attached Images

6th May 2020, 02:06 PM	#7
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Butt end comparison if you'll pardon the phraseology. Regards, Norman. Attached Images

5th May 2020, 07:21 AM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	The lock is certainly not of French style but a British Brown Bess lock that has been decorated

6th May 2020, 08:24 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Rick, Another nice gun! I agree with you, this one is not Algerian nor Moroccan...