Bag Lady Kampilan

Spunjer · 18th April 2020, 09:02 PM

with all the coins, seems like this particular piece is more of a numismatist's dream, no?
Jose, that's one possiblity, about being a pusaka, although i've never heard of adding trinkets as it goes down from father to son. but then again, who knows?

understand too, that if it's indeed a Suluanon kampilan, Jolo port was actually a busy international port back in the days, albeit it was waning at the turn of the century. a lot of traders from all over Asia, Middle East and Europeans. some of these traders actually stayed and made Sulu their home. Capt Schuck from Germany for one, the Tan Family from China, etc.
here's another thing that crossed my mind... why didn't the original owner use any American or Filipino coin from that era? it was a common thing back then to use those due to their high silver content, and for their 'bling' effect.

i do know this: that particular medallion is popular among the Filipinos. since when, i have no idea.

Rick · 18th April 2020, 11:19 PM

What a great collection of talismans for one sword!

Sajen · 18th April 2020, 11:29 PM

Wow, what a stunning kampy!

Could the christian aluminium medallion a part from a rosary?

Regards,
Detlef

Rick · 19th April 2020, 03:25 AM

I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device.

drac2k · 19th April 2020, 04:23 AM

Very Cool Sword; could it be an heirloom piece where each successive owner would embellish it with something meaningful to themselves.

Spunjer · 19th April 2020, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device.

BOOM! by God, you got it, Rick. thank you!

Rick · 19th April 2020, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

BOOM! by God, you got it, Rick. thank you!

They are all symbols of power IMO.

I wonder if the ship with The British flag might not be an East India Co. coin. I'll bet one anchor button is British navy and the other with a crown and cannons could possibly be British Artillery?
I wonder if this sword has been in Malaya in the past.

It's a very special sword Ron; I think it's pretty old, and maybe someone tried to strip the finish from the hilt to enhance the value a bit?

CharlesS · 19th April 2020, 12:16 PM

AWESOME sword Ron! Somebody really liked their "ju-ju" and apparently wanted to make sure all their bases were covered!!!

David · 19th April 2020, 04:19 PM

Never had a drive to collect kamplian, but i might make an exception with this sword.

David · 24th July 2024, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device.

That is exactly what it is. Unfortunately these medallions looked very much the same from the late 19th century up through WWII so it is a bit difficult to date.

Tim Simmons · 25th July 2024, 06:36 AM

The British coin is a (ships colonies and commerce coin 1/2 penny) Canada.

https://coinsite.com/ships-colonies-...mmerce-tokens/

Spunjer · 19th April 2020, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Wow, what a stunning kampy!

Could the christian aluminium medallion a part from a rosary?

Regards,
Detlef

hello Detlef,
i don't think it is. i believe it's just a plain medallion

thank you, btw!

Sajen · 25th July 2024, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

hello Detlef,
i don't think it is. i believe it's just a plain medallion

thank you, btw!

I wouldn't be too sure about this, look for example two similar ones taken from the net.

Regards,
Detlef

Montino Bourbon · 26th July 2024, 02:20 AM

There’s also a coin from Vittorio Emanuele II. Victor Emmanuel II was King of Sardinia from 23 March 1849 until 17 March 1861, when he assumed the title of King of Italy and became the first king of an independent, united Italy since the 6th century, a title he held until his death in 1878

Pertinax · 26th July 2024, 09:03 AM

Perhaps this kampilan was used in religious ceremonies and belonged to a local priest. Similar items are found among shamans of the peoples of Siberia.

How do you like this version?

Regards, Yuri

David R · 2nd August 2024, 11:25 PM

Well whatever the history behind it, what a find! Love it, just as I like all these vernacular packrat decorated pieces.

19th April 2020, 03:25 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I'm thinking this is a British Royal Fusiliers device. Attached Images

25th July 2024, 06:36 AM	#11
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	The British coin is a (ships colonies and commerce coin 1/2 penny) Canada. https://coinsite.com/ships-colonies-...mmerce-tokens/ Last edited by Tim Simmons; 25th July 2024 at 06:48 AM.

18th April 2020, 09:02 PM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	with all the coins, seems like this particular piece is more of a numismatist's dream, no? Jose, that's one possiblity, about being a pusaka, although i've never heard of adding trinkets as it goes down from father to son. but then again, who knows? understand too, that if it's indeed a Suluanon kampilan, Jolo port was actually a busy international port back in the days, albeit it was waning at the turn of the century. a lot of traders from all over Asia, Middle East and Europeans. some of these traders actually stayed and made Sulu their home. Capt Schuck from Germany for one, the Tan Family from China, etc. here's another thing that crossed my mind... why didn't the original owner use any American or Filipino coin from that era? it was a common thing back then to use those due to their high silver content, and for their 'bling' effect. i do know this: that particular medallion is popular among the Filipinos. since when, i have no idea.

18th April 2020, 11:19 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	What a great collection of talismans for one sword!

18th April 2020, 11:29 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Wow, what a stunning kampy! Could the christian aluminium medallion a part from a rosary? Regards, Detlef

19th April 2020, 04:23 AM	#5
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,255	Very Cool Sword; could it be an heirloom piece where each successive owner would embellish it with something meaningful to themselves.

19th April 2020, 12:16 PM	#8
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	AWESOME sword Ron! Somebody really liked their "ju-ju" and apparently wanted to make sure all their bases were covered!!!

19th April 2020, 04:19 PM	#9
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Never had a drive to collect kamplian, but i might make an exception with this sword.

26th July 2024, 02:20 AM	#14
Montino Bourbon Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara, California Posts: 301	There’s also a coin from Vittorio Emanuele II. Victor Emmanuel II was King of Sardinia from 23 March 1849 until 17 March 1861, when he assumed the title of King of Italy and became the first king of an independent, united Italy since the 6th century, a title he held until his death in 1878

26th July 2024, 09:03 AM	#15
Pertinax Member Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: City by the Black Sea Posts: 220	Perhaps this kampilan was used in religious ceremonies and belonged to a local priest. Similar items are found among shamans of the peoples of Siberia. How do you like this version? Regards, Yuri

2nd August 2024, 11:25 PM	#16
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,116	Well whatever the history behind it, what a find! Love it, just as I like all these vernacular packrat decorated pieces.