Very confusing persian kard

Kubur · 16th April 2020, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard G

The hatching and the inscription look fairly crude, and to my eyes at least, the wrong way up.
Richard

It's what I think, if the scabbard is from Sudan I wonder if the inscription is from Sudan too...
I dream that kiwatek could help us...

kwiatek · 8th May 2020, 10:35 PM

Sorry for absence. It has been a strange time ...

It says, in Arabic:

هدیة من سلطان سليمان الى جوهر اغا

'Gift from Sultan Sulayman (Süleyman) to Jawhar Agha (Cevher Ağa)'

I don't think we can take that as a serious attribution, though it doesn't look like a modern fake to me either. From an early age artisans copied royal inscriptions on humbler pieces.

Kubur · 9th May 2020, 06:15 PM

Please don't be sorry, your help is so valuable.
The most important is to be safe and healthy.
Thank you very much and I agree the inscription doesn't fit with the knife and was added later. At least, it's very chic!
Warm regards,

Battara · 10th May 2020, 01:14 AM

Zukran Kwiatek!

ariel · 10th May 2020, 06:22 AM

Kubur,
I see what you mean: in your #2 the right side of the inscription looks different from the left one. It is not as tight. Definitely the inscription was monkeyed with.

8th May 2020, 10:35 PM	#2
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 156	Sorry for absence. It has been a strange time ... It says, in Arabic: هدیة من سلطان سليمان الى جوهر اغا 'Gift from Sultan Sulayman (Süleyman) to Jawhar Agha (Cevher Ağa)' I don't think we can take that as a serious attribution, though it doesn't look like a modern fake to me either. From an early age artisans copied royal inscriptions on humbler pieces.

9th May 2020, 06:15 PM	#3
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Please don't be sorry, your help is so valuable. The most important is to be safe and healthy. Thank you very much and I agree the inscription doesn't fit with the knife and was added later. At least, it's very chic! Warm regards,

10th May 2020, 01:14 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,363	Zukran Kwiatek!

10th May 2020, 06:22 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Kubur, I see what you mean: in your #2 the right side of the inscription looks different from the left one. It is not as tight. Definitely the inscription was monkeyed with.