Halberd or partizana?

Philip · 23rd March 2020, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yvain

To me, it kind of looks like an "épieu", or "spear" in english, with its leaf blade, strong midrib, and lugs; not an halberd or a partisan in my opinion though. Epieux were mostly used to hunt but some saw use in combat (as described in Froissart' Chronicles for example). The faceted socket reminds me of some specimens from the XVth century, but it could of course be much later.

Mario Troso, in Le Armi in Asta delle Fanterie Europee 1000-1500 (Pole arms of European infantry) provides a very good classification of such weapons. On page 105 he illustrates several examples, all of which are characterized by dual lateral projections or lugs between the socket and blade, these can be either pointed or with squared ends.

Names for this type of weapon include Spiedo da guerra, Knebelspiese, winged spear, or épieu de guerre.

There are further examples on p 106, two are large examples with perforated triangular wings or lugs., George C Stone, in his Glossary... of Arms and Armor pp 122-23, identifies this type as a "Bohemian ear spoon" It is interesting that the entry for this item follows that for "Boar spear" -- one example of that group, in the Metropolitan Museum of Art, has a pair of fixed lugs on the socket as well, which establishes a conceptual link between weapons designed for sport as well as war.

BUCC_Guy · 28th March 2020, 01:56 AM

Appears to be a late 16th to early 17th c. halberd type often attributed to Austria.

The form is the same, but the rear hook, axe, and langets have been removed.

See here for a very similar example.

http://www.antiqueweaponstore.com/Et...ca.%201600.htm

CSinTX · 28th March 2020, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCC_Guy

See here for a very similar example.

Looks like you nailed it!

fernando · 28th March 2020, 01:33 PM

We could see that aspalathos example was damaged but ... not to such an extreme point.

Lee · 28th March 2020, 02:08 PM

So, once upon a time long ago, someone may have had an old halberd and wanted a boar spear...

fernando · 28th March 2020, 02:16 PM

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Philip · 29th March 2020, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee

So, once upon a time long ago, someone may have had an old halberd and wanted a boar spear...

Those projecting lugs make it ideal for the purpose of poking piggy and minimizing the danger of him being run clean through and coming up to tusk the hunter. Great suggestion, Lee!

fernando · 29th March 2020, 01:39 PM

Oh i see, Filipe. Shame on me. I took it that Lee's entry was only to offer a little humor

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28th March 2020, 01:56 AM	#2
BUCC_Guy Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 52	Appears to be a late 16th to early 17th c. halberd type often attributed to Austria. The form is the same, but the rear hook, axe, and langets have been removed. See here for a very similar example. http://www.antiqueweaponstore.com/Et...ca.%201600.htm

28th March 2020, 01:33 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	We could see that aspalathos example was damaged but ... not to such an extreme point.

28th March 2020, 02:08 PM	#5
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 937	So, once upon a time long ago, someone may have had an old halberd and wanted a boar spear...

29th March 2020, 01:39 PM	#8
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Oh i see, Filipe. Shame on me. I took it that Lee's entry was only to offer a little humor .