Powder horn and unidentified object

kahnjar1 · 12th March 2020, 07:51 PM

Hi Andreas,
Just a suggestion about the "ramrod"......could it be a spike for clearing the touch hole of a cannon?
Stu

adrian · 12th March 2020, 08:10 PM

That spike/rod is too large in diameter to enter the vent of an artillery piece.

AHorsa · 14th March 2020, 02:52 PM

Thanks for the comments! Anyone else an idea about this piece?

BAW · 14th March 2020, 11:00 PM

The shape of the unknown object is very similar to a butchers' steel for sharpening knives.

AHorsa · 15th March 2020, 11:29 AM

I think for a butcher´s steel the lion (which tahn would be the hilt) is too small. Also the shape of the lion´s "noise" wouldn´t make sens then, as it semms to be supposed to push something.

fernando · 15th March 2020, 12:27 PM

Why descarding the ramrod possibility, guys ?
In some cultures the ramrod is a separate device, often intrincate and highly decorated. You take the Turkish "Suma", for one (Stone page 587).
Say Andreas, which is the thickness of that rod you are showing us?

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AHorsa · 15th March 2020, 04:14 PM

Hi Fernando,

thanks for the input. The thikness of the iron part is max. 1,3cm, the lion is max. 1,5cm

Cheers
Andreas

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kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	Hi Andreas, Just a suggestion about the "ramrod"......could it be a spike for clearing the touch hole of a cannon? Stu

12th March 2020, 08:10 PM	#2
adrian Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 130	That spike/rod is too large in diameter to enter the vent of an artillery piece.

14th March 2020, 02:52 PM	#3
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Thanks for the comments! Anyone else an idea about this piece?

14th March 2020, 11:00 PM	#4
BAW Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 6	The shape of the unknown object is very similar to a butchers' steel for sharpening knives.

15th March 2020, 11:29 AM	#5
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	I think for a butcher´s steel the lion (which tahn would be the hilt) is too small. Also the shape of the lion´s "noise" wouldn´t make sens then, as it semms to be supposed to push something.

15th March 2020, 04:14 PM	#7
AHorsa Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Rhineland Posts: 375	Hi Fernando, thanks for the input. The thikness of the iron part is max. 1,3cm, the lion is max. 1,5cm Cheers Andreas