Question about XVIII - XIX spontoon

fernando · 4th March 2020, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

It is very nice that you think that I am much younger than you, but I'll get 76 years old this year...

Amazing, Udo; by the way you sound, i thought you were infinitely younger than that

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Originally Posted by corrado26

... They have been made for nothing else than battle.

Here is something i disagree with ... if you don't mind me saying so; according to what i read .. and see, these fancy sergeant insignia polearms are hardly combat weapons.
But i am no Popist either

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corrado26 · 5th March 2020, 07:02 AM

In German armies the spontoons have been arms and rank sign for infantry sergeants. Spontoons have not been arms to fight with but they have been tools to proof the state of the bearer and so to demonstrate orderpower against their inferior men during a battle. It was over that a beloved tool to force unwilling men to advance against the enemy. All of these spontoons had langets! These items are totally differentt o spontoons or partisans in use with life guards or ceremonial purposes.
But as I said before, I am no specialist in polearms etc., the field of my main interest during the last 60 years has been and still is the history of military firearms during the muzzleloader aera and this is quite another thing.
corrado26

fernando · 5th March 2020, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

In German armies the spontoons have been arms and rank sign for infantry sergeants. Spontoons have not been arms to fight with but they have been tools to proof the state of the bearer and so to demonstrate orderpower against their inferior men during a battle. It was over that a beloved tool to force unwilling men to advance against the enemy ...

That is also what i have learnt, Udo. The requirement for side straps and blade decoration is another chapter.

corrado26 · 5th March 2020, 10:27 AM

Last question: Who of us two is the elder one?

fernando · 5th March 2020, 02:35 PM

You just have to check my profile (UserCP); i am pharaonic ... old enough to be your father

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5th March 2020, 07:02 AM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	In German armies the spontoons have been arms and rank sign for infantry sergeants. Spontoons have not been arms to fight with but they have been tools to proof the state of the bearer and so to demonstrate orderpower against their inferior men during a battle. It was over that a beloved tool to force unwilling men to advance against the enemy. All of these spontoons had langets! These items are totally differentt o spontoons or partisans in use with life guards or ceremonial purposes. But as I said before, I am no specialist in polearms etc., the field of my main interest during the last 60 years has been and still is the history of military firearms during the muzzleloader aera and this is quite another thing. corrado26

5th March 2020, 10:27 AM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	Last question: Who of us two is the elder one?

5th March 2020, 02:35 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	You just have to check my profile (UserCP); i am pharaonic ... old enough to be your father .