Arabic swords , Wootz Persian ? Ottoman , Saudi Saif??

[mariusgmioc]

Both Persian Shamshirs, but their age is uncertain.

They are both in need of some cleaning and etching and then you may know more based on the quality of the wootz.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21732

[Kubur]

Yes maybe 19th c. The one with the golden cartouches is very good.

[phil.reid]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Both Persian Shamshirs, but their age is uncertain.

They are both in need of some cleaning and etching and then you may know more based on the quality of the wootz.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21732

Thanks for the advice on cleaning, very helpful