Closed helmet circa 1630

[Cerjak]

The visor covers the front of the skull, and is embossed to fit the comb, but never I have seen such crude work.
This feature is never seen on close helmet even of munition grade quality.

[Lansquenet59]

I understand, however, it is not because this model has never been seen, that it never existed. It may be an adaptation of the time, because it remains functional. I found an identical model, as a closed funeral helmet in a church. I think mine is not funeral, no holes anywhere.
(Image source: https://www.pinterest.fr/jamesbshannon7/funerary-helms/)

[Cerjak]

This helmet said to be from Sir Thomas Coppin of Markyate funerary achievement has a two pieces visor. ( fig 1573 p154 cripps-day)

[Lansquenet59]

Thanks for the information, I thought it was the same.

[vilhelmsson]

Originally Posted by Cerjak

This helmet said to be from Sir Thomas Coppin of Markyate funerary achievement has a two pieces visor. ( fig 1573 p154 cripps-day)

Cerjak, in your experience, are two piece visors less common on more modern helmets, are they more common on older earlier helmets, or is this just pointed out as a feature that differentiates Lansquenet's helmet from the photo posted above?

[Cerjak]

Originally Posted by vilhelmsson

Cerjak, in your experience, are two piece visors less common on more modern helmets, are they more common on older earlier helmets, or is this just pointed out as a feature that differentiates Lansquenet's helmet from the photo posted above?

It depends on period ,country and fashion the Savoyard helmets and Maximilian helmet are mostly with one piece visor but cuirassiers helm from the early 17th and European heavy field helmets from 1550- 1590 are mostly iwith separate ventail and visor.. also on cuirassiet helmets when in one piece visor always accompanied of a peak pivoted at the sides of the skull.