The EARLY MAKERS TRADE MARKS thread... lost and partly restored.

fernando · 24th January 2020, 10:49 AM

The marks on your blade are one of the various misspelled initials of "In Nomine Domini" and would mean " In the name of the Lord (God)", an ancient Catholic expression; actually the title of a Papal Bull in the year 1050. You often find this in European blades; a subject also often discussed here in the forum-

dralin23 · 24th January 2020, 02:30 PM

hello fernando,
thank you for these information!
I also thought it that way when I read the letters on the blade. but if i read this combination of letters like this then the running wolf would have been hit the wrong way round in the blade. so he would be lying on his back. the other way around, the letters would make no sense. the running wolf also looks authentically real to me and not like it was hit afterwards. we can only speculate about why and why.

Victrix · 24th January 2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dralin23

hello fernando,
thank you for these information!
I also thought it that way when I read the letters on the blade. but if i read this combination of letters like this then the running wolf would have been hit the wrong way round in the blade. so he would be lying on his back. the other way around, the letters would make no sense. the running wolf also looks authentically real to me and not like it was hit afterwards. we can only speculate about why and why.

Supposedly when the blade smiths of Solingen put the wolf of Passau on the blades, they put them upside down compared to any text. So the wolf mark on your blade shows it’s made in Solingen. It’s beautiful.

dralin23 · 24th January 2020, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Victrix

Supposedly when the blade smiths of Solingen put the wolf of Passau on the blades, they put them upside down compared to any text. So the wolf mark on your blade shows it’s made in Solingen. It’s beautiful.

hi,
this is new for me and very intresting!!
where you have read it?

Victrix · 24th January 2020, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dralin23

hi,
this is new for me and very intresting!!
where you have read it?

Can’t remember exactly. Wagner’s Cut and Thrust Weapons? Or Oakeshott?

dralin23 · 24th January 2020, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Victrix

Can’t remember exactly. Wagner’s Cut and Thrust Weapons? Or Oakeshott?

thank you for these information!!
intrestig to hear this, I wonder why I couldn't get such important information when I asked for it in the sword museum in Solingen.

24th January 2020, 02:30 PM	#2
dralin23 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 194	hello fernando, thank you for these information! I also thought it that way when I read the letters on the blade. but if i read this combination of letters like this then the running wolf would have been hit the wrong way round in the blade. so he would be lying on his back. the other way around, the letters would make no sense. the running wolf also looks authentically real to me and not like it was hit afterwards. we can only speculate about why and why. Attached Images

24th January 2020, 10:49 AM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	The marks on your blade are one of the various misspelled initials of "In Nomine Domini" and would mean " In the name of the Lord (God)", an ancient Catholic expression; actually the title of a Papal Bull in the year 1050. You often find this in European blades; a subject also often discussed here in the forum-