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Thanks. Very helpful.
When the picture is enlarged to 400-500%, one can see clearly that the pommels marked in red are not solid spherical, but flat on top ( hemispherical), hollow inside, have no lids and in some of them balusters protrude above the boundaries of the pommel. Also, their quillons are fleuret-like and not down-turned, strengthening Jens' statement of their earlier origin. They look very much like my original example, only less Persianized ( quillon tips) suggesting that mine may be 16-17th century. Again, thanks for confirming my suspicions. |
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Although there are also hemispherical pommel on the miniature (I highlighted with a white arrow). The ratio of spherical pommels and hemispherical pommels is about the same, so it is difficult to say which shape of the top was more archaic. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Memoirs_of_Babur_(Walters_MS_596)#/media/File:Zahir_al-Din_Muhammad_Babur_-_The_Battle_of_Sultan_Husayn_Mirza_Against_Sultan_ Mas'ud_Mirza_-_Walters_W59618B_-_Full_Page.jpg |
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You just did not zoom them enough. Look at their tops: they are flat.
Hemispherical as they can be , all showing darkened innards with protruding balusters, all just like the one with a white arrow. Again, thanks for providing incontrovertible iconographic evidence in my favor. Last edited by ariel; 29th December 2019 at 07:30 PM. |
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If you enlarge the images even further, since the clarity of the image will be lost, you can expect any form of pommels. I think everyone could see the form conceived by the author of the miniatures. Last edited by mahratt; 29th December 2019 at 08:34 PM. |
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Having politely thanked Mahratt for his valuable evidence in favor of my original post, I hereby stop responding to his comments.
Any other critiques/suggestions/interpretations are more than welcome. Happy New Year! |
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Salaams Ibrahiim
Maybe my eyesight is failing ... Look, please, are you leading a spherical pommel this sword here? Or a hemisphere? |
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It does remind me of a rounded poppy. Interesting.
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