Searching For Info On Jaeger Gun-maker, HITLLNGER FN STOCKERAV

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by corrado26

The sign ofer the "MA" might be a cannon. The "MA" could stand for "Miliär-Arsenal N°1240"

It certainly does look like a cannon and some type of inventory mark.

[dana_w]

I'd all so love to learn something about the unusual screwless lock mechanism.

[Fernando K]

Hello

In any case, punching with M A 1 2 4 0 seems to be very recent. The alignment of the numbers is perfect. It looks like a unique punch and I don't think it's a punch from a modern military arsenal. Less than an old arsenal. Will it be a collection number?

Affectionately

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello

In any case, punching with M A 1 2 4 0 seems to be very recent. The alignment of the numbers is perfect. It looks like a unique punch and I don't think it's a punch from a modern military arsenal. Less than an old arsenal. Will it be a collection number?

Affectionately

That's a good point Fernando.

[fernando]

Easy to agree that the marks by the patch box are not those of an arsenal; this is a non military gun, but a hunting one, plate decoratins and all.
In my view also hardly a collection number; with such four digits, what kind of large collection would it be ?

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by fernando

Easy to agree that the marks by the patch box are not those of an arsenal; this is a non military gun, but a hunting one, plate decoratins and all.
In my view also hardly a collection number; with such four digits, what kind of large collection would it be ?

Private weapons in public military collections are absolutely no rarity, In my long time as a member of a stately German military museum I know that it has been normal use in former times to donate all weapons of a dead officer to the military museum, as long as the widow or the children had no other application for them. As a donation these arms had to be inventarized as all other guns, swords etc. were they civilian or military

And because of the four digits: The inventory numbers in our museum had six digits
corrado26

[fernando]

A good point, Udo !
In such perspective, i know of a fine private collection that was donated to the local Oporto Military museu. Actually i know the person who was called to inventory it. Four digits were enough, though; this is a relatively small museum.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by dana_w

I'd all so love to learn something about the unusual screwless lock mechanism.

I am not certain what you mean by that, Dana but, this reminds of a gun i was once shown by Rainer Dehnhardt, in that there was no externl screws to dismount the lock plate. After a long night trying to crack the riddle, he had the idea to lurk into the ramrod cavity wirh a flash light ... and bingo; there by the bottom was a 'button' to be pressed to open the mechanism.

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by dana_w

I'd all so love to learn something about the unusual screwless lock mechanism.

I think that the lock is much later than the rest of the gun and certainly a replacement - the replaced piece of wood at the left end of the lock is a clear proof.
This kind of lock, where all mechanical components are hidden at the inside of the lockplate may have been invented by Henry Nock but there was a Danish gunmaker C.W.Kyhl whose very similar contruction found use in the Danish cavalry pistol M 1807 - see foto. It would be very interesting to compare the inner side of the lock with the Danish lock made by Kyhl
corrado26

[dana_w]

Originally Posted by corrado26

I think that the lock is much later than the rest of the gun and certainly a replacement - the replaced piece of wood at the left end of the lock is a clear proof.
This kind of lock, where all mechanical components are hidden at the inside of the lockplate may have been invented by Henry Nock but there was a Danish gunmaker C.W.Kyhl whose very similar contruction found use in the Danish cavalry pistol M 1807 - see foto. It would be very interesting to compare the inner side of the lock with the Danish lock made by Kyhl
corrado26

I've been wondering if the lock could have been later than the rest. I'll think about removing the lock to have a look.