Massive Flask for comment

Kubur · 23rd October 2019, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

There isn't any> was that a spelling mistake and what I meant to type was Algerian?? I don't know. anyway its certainly not German! having said that here's a German round drum shaped Powder Flask not related >>>but I searched for a link anyway>>>> I have seen many like the one you illustrate from Morocco>

Actually Ibrahiim you are not so wrong.

Most of the Moroccan powder flasks have been inspired by European models : Dutch and English.

I don't know if the one that you posted is German, it might be Silesian (not far).
The little cooper nails are very similiar to Ottoman / Balkans types...

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 23rd October 2019, 10:39 AM

You are absolutely right Kubur; an excellent point well taken Sir!

corrado26 · 23rd October 2019, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

I don't know if the one that you posted is German, it might be Silesian (not far).
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Just for info: Silesia was since 1740 until 1945 with interruptions part of the Prussian territory. Before 1740 it was part of the Holy Roman Empire. So the flask is definitely a German one
corrado26

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 24th October 2019, 11:13 AM

The flask is without doubt Moroccan...It may have also been used in other regions like Algeria but firstly it is Islamic since it has the hand of fatima five geometry to its design centred on the central red dot and the 6 pointed star... plus in the picture above at #10 it is drawn on a Moroccan warrior holding a Moroccan gun and wearing Moroccan clothing amongst others dressed in the same way...Including a left hand man wearing a Nimcha.

But why such a huge flask for gunpowder for which you need to see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23466 t #22 which outlines the poor quality powder needing more of it to be poured into the barrel and the reason why barrels needed to be so long... to achieve a fuller burn. other magrebi flasks show the design of 5 pointer stars (there is no difference in the use of either) as below~

Kubur · 24th October 2019, 11:54 AM

A hexagram on the obverse of Moroccan 4 falus coin, dated AH 1290 (AD 1873/4).
The seal of Solomon is very common in Morocco.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 24th October 2019, 01:07 PM

Here it is as a ring...and more star examples on flasks.

24th October 2019, 11:13 AM	#4
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	The flask is without doubt Moroccan...It may have also been used in other regions like Algeria but firstly it is Islamic since it has the hand of fatima five geometry to its design centred on the central red dot and the 6 pointed star... plus in the picture above at #10 it is drawn on a Moroccan warrior holding a Moroccan gun and wearing Moroccan clothing amongst others dressed in the same way...Including a left hand man wearing a Nimcha. But why such a huge flask for gunpowder for which you need to see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23466 t #22 which outlines the poor quality powder needing more of it to be poured into the barrel and the reason why barrels needed to be so long... to achieve a fuller burn. other magrebi flasks show the design of 5 pointer stars (there is no difference in the use of either) as below~ Attached Images

24th October 2019, 11:54 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	A hexagram on the obverse of Moroccan 4 falus coin, dated AH 1290 (AD 1873/4). The seal of Solomon is very common in Morocco. Attached Images

24th October 2019, 01:07 PM	#6
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Here it is as a ring...and more star examples on flasks. Attached Images

23rd October 2019, 10:39 AM	#2
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	You are absolutely right Kubur; an excellent point well taken Sir!