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Old 2nd October 2019, 12:30 PM   #1
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Elgood, Robert, ed., Islamic Arms and Armour, Scolar Press 1979. There is an article on the subject. Flindt, Torben W.: Some Nineteenth-Century Arms from Bukhara.
The David Collection. Islamic Arms and Armour from Private Danish Collections. Pp. 128-129.
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Old 2nd October 2019, 12:54 PM   #2
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Oh yeah. Thank you. I have this book and this article. You correctly noted that my mace is from this private collection and was published in the article about which you wrote. I know it
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I dont know if the mace you have is the same as the one mentioned/shown in Torben W. Flindt's article. Maybe it is - you will have to be the judge.
I have had the mace in my hands, and also saw it when it was exhibited at The David Collection - but it is many years ago.
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Old 2nd October 2019, 01:41 PM   #4
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I think it's enough to compare the photo.
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Question: have you seen any engraving or ancient document showing Bukharan men with this mace? I think many of these maces so-called bukhara maces are not from Bukhara.
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Mahratt, when you compare the marks on the stone head, to the ones in Toben's article, it does seem to be the same mace.
Funny to see the mace again after so many years. Congratulations:-).
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Yep, Those pic leave no doubt. Rotate yours about a quarter turn clockwise and the markings line up exactly.
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Mahratt, when you compare the marks on the stone head, to the ones in Toben's article, it does seem to be the same mace.
Funny to see the mace again after so many years. Congratulations:-).
Jens, thanks
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Question: have you seen any engraving or ancient document showing Bukharan men with this mace? I think many of these maces so-called bukhara maces are not from Bukhara.
Kubur, this is a very good question.
Unfortunately I have not seen any images Bukharan men with this mace. I know only one document of the late 19th century, which describes a diplomatic reception at the Emir of Bukhara. This document mentions important dignitaries who had richly decorated axes and maces in their hands.
I know for sure that my mace and maces, which are kept in Denmark in private collections and an ethnographic museum, were brought from Bukhara by Danish officer and ethnographer Ole Olufsen in the late 19th century. Most of these maces are decorated in a style typical of Bukhra. These "Danish" maces can be called "standart".
It is logical to assume that maces similar to these "standart Bukhara maces" also originate from Bukhara.

The lack of images of Bukhara men with such maces can hardly be considered a serious argument ... For example, until recently, images of Bukhara men with Bukhara shashka were not known. Only one image - a picture of the artist Vereshchagin. But we know a lot of Bukhara shashkas, both in museums and in private collections.
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I asked that because there is another country where they use silver and turquoise and they have maces also... I wonder if one member knows which country I'm talking about...
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