Need opinions about this dagger

ariel · 1st September 2019, 07:28 PM

Ottoman?
They liked all-iron.

Battara · 1st September 2019, 08:48 PM

Yes I agree that this is iron or more likely steel. Persian is my guess with the "I" form of hilt.

I also wonder if this is later Qajar period, and if so, might not be wootz after all. Might have originally had some silver koftgari one the hilt and/or blade, and might even be 20th century.

sfenoid13 · 3rd September 2019, 03:41 AM

It’s clearly Persian.

mariusgmioc · 3rd September 2019, 06:58 AM

While the general shape and the hilt appear to be Persian, typical Persian khanjars have the signature central rib, which this one does not.
However, blades of diamond cross-section like this one are very common with the Kurdish people. Ad let us not forget that large portions of the areas inhabited by Kurdish people were (some still are) part of Persia.
So, my oppinion is that it is a Persian inspired Kurdish khanjar.

Mercenary · 3rd September 2019, 06:29 PM

Rajasthani jambia. I met them there.
Kubur - !

mahratt · 3rd September 2019, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercenary

Rajasthani jambia. I met them there.
Kubur - !

I agree. It looks like an indian jambia. And looking at what remains of koftgari, I think it’s very late 19th century

Hombre · 11th September 2019, 09:21 AM

Have just been packing it up....
Handle is iron....
More pictures will come when the light is better.... Rainy day here....

Best,
Stefan

ariel · 11th September 2019, 04:54 PM

Well....

Persia, Arab/Yemeni blade with Eastern Sudan made grip, Ottoman, Rajastan, just India in general, Kurdish....

Any other countries on the map?

:-)

mariusgmioc · 11th September 2019, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hombre

Have just been packing it up....
Handle is iron....
More pictures will come when the light is better.... Rainy day here....

Best,
Stefan

I agree with the oppinion it is Rajastani.

3rd September 2019, 03:41 AM	#3
sfenoid13 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 134	It’s clearly Persian. Last edited by sfenoid13; 3rd September 2019 at 03:55 AM.

11th September 2019, 09:21 AM	#7
Hombre Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 232	Have just been packing it up.... Handle is iron.... More pictures will come when the light is better.... Rainy day here.... Best, Stefan Attached Images

1st September 2019, 07:28 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Ottoman? They liked all-iron.

1st September 2019, 08:48 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Yes I agree that this is iron or more likely steel. Persian is my guess with the "I" form of hilt. I also wonder if this is later Qajar period, and if so, might not be wootz after all. Might have originally had some silver koftgari one the hilt and/or blade, and might even be 20th century.

3rd September 2019, 06:58 AM	#4
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,912	While the general shape and the hilt appear to be Persian, typical Persian khanjars have the signature central rib, which this one does not. However, blades of diamond cross-section like this one are very common with the Kurdish people. Ad let us not forget that large portions of the areas inhabited by Kurdish people were (some still are) part of Persia. So, my oppinion is that it is a Persian inspired Kurdish khanjar.

3rd September 2019, 06:29 PM	#5
Mercenary Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 430	Rajasthani jambia. I met them there. Kubur - !

11th September 2019, 04:54 PM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Well.... Persia, Arab/Yemeni blade with Eastern Sudan made grip, Ottoman, Rajastan, just India in general, Kurdish.... Any other countries on the map? :-)