Hand and a Half Sword

fernando · 29th July 2019, 02:37 PM

Crown and coronet criteria varies among different countries. In one like mine, the Baron doesn't 'qualify' for those peak pearls. It only has them (always seven) in Denmark, Norway, Nederlands, Russian Empire and Holly Roman-Germanic Empire (new version).
Just as an aside, this frontal counting of pears, which they call apparent, comprehends the pearls we see front wise, meaning that the actual total of pearls is one applied in the whole round coronet ... not crown, as those are for Kings and Princes.

Merenti · 8th September 2024, 07:44 PM

For me the best!

Jim McDougall · 9th September 2024, 12:03 AM

Thank you for bringing this thread back to the fore! Brilliant discourse with the 'top guns' of the forum bringing in incredible references and resourced data on this great example of a hand and a half sword.
The information shared by these guys is amazing, and a learning experience to reread this material and sort of 'recharge the batteries' !

Well done.

midelburgo · 12th September 2024, 07:26 AM

I believe the coat of arms is more on a style of the middle to late XVIIIth century. It does not make much sense in a battle sword in use, and possibly was added much later, when the sword got other functions, pageants and such.

Rapier's Delight · 30th October 2024, 02:37 PM

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but the three marks on the blade are ofthen associated with swordsmiths from Belluno, in the Veneto region of Italy.

29th July 2019, 02:37 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I guess ... Crown and coronet criteria varies among different countries. In one like mine, the Baron doesn't 'qualify' for those peak pearls. It only has them (always seven) in Denmark, Norway, Nederlands, Russian Empire and Holly Roman-Germanic Empire (new version). Just as an aside, this frontal counting of pears, which they call apparent, comprehends the pearls we see front wise, meaning that the actual total of pearls is one applied in the whole round coronet ... not crown, as those are for Kings and Princes.

8th September 2024, 07:44 PM	#2
Merenti Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 72	For me the best!

9th September 2024, 12:03 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	Thank you for bringing this thread back to the fore! Brilliant discourse with the 'top guns' of the forum bringing in incredible references and resourced data on this great example of a hand and a half sword. The information shared by these guys is amazing, and a learning experience to reread this material and sort of 'recharge the batteries' ! Well done.

12th September 2024, 07:26 AM	#4
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 278	I believe the coat of arms is more on a style of the middle to late XVIIIth century. It does not make much sense in a battle sword in use, and possibly was added much later, when the sword got other functions, pageants and such.

30th October 2024, 02:37 PM	#5
Rapier's Delight Member Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 14	I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but the three marks on the blade are ofthen associated with swordsmiths from Belluno, in the Veneto region of Italy.