Keris Solo for comment

A. G. Maisey · 6th June 2019, 06:58 AM

David, I cannot confidently give a classification (tangguh) for this big blade from a photo, but I can very confidently say what it is not, and it is most definitely not a Surakarta blade. Not one single tell relates to Surakarta.

Where are these experts who think it is Surakarta located David?

Incidentally, "Alan" will do just fine.

David Gallas · 6th June 2019, 09:44 AM

In Holland, i live in Holland...

A. G. Maisey · 6th June 2019, 01:13 PM

Thank you David.

David Gallas · 7th June 2019, 05:34 AM

You're welcome Alan.

jagabuwana · 16th June 2019, 06:09 AM

Alan - what about this gonjo makes it unacceptable to be classified as Tuban?

From having seen the photo and before having read further, Tuban was my guess. My reasoning was the rounded sirah cicak and the buntut urang tapering to a point.

A. G. Maisey · 16th June 2019, 07:28 AM

If this gonjo had what we call nguceng mati form, with the tail coming back to a distinct point, I would be prepared to accept the slightly pointed sirah cecak as Tuban, its not really rounded enough for Tuban, but it would pass with a push. However, that gonjo tail has a slight curve and the end is more or less squared off. This is not acceptable for Tuban.

There's another thing too, I cannot really see the blade cross section, I'm not sure if it is ovoid enough for Tuban, in a couple of pics it looks like it could be slightly raised down the mid-line of the wilah, not really an ada-ada, but not rounded either.

Jean · 16th June 2019, 09:10 AM

I wonder whether this gonjo wulung is original, look at the mating with the blade and the neat & oversized hole around the pesi with a rustic wedge?
Regards

6th June 2019, 06:58 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	David, I cannot confidently give a classification (tangguh) for this big blade from a photo, but I can very confidently say what it is not, and it is most definitely not a Surakarta blade. Not one single tell relates to Surakarta. Where are these experts who think it is Surakarta located David? Incidentally, "Alan" will do just fine.

6th June 2019, 09:44 AM	#2
David Gallas Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 24	In Holland, i live in Holland...

6th June 2019, 01:13 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Thank you David.

7th June 2019, 05:34 AM	#4
David Gallas Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 24	You're welcome Alan.

16th June 2019, 06:09 AM	#5
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 290	Alan - what about this gonjo makes it unacceptable to be classified as Tuban? From having seen the photo and before having read further, Tuban was my guess. My reasoning was the rounded sirah cicak and the buntut urang tapering to a point.

16th June 2019, 07:28 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	If this gonjo had what we call nguceng mati form, with the tail coming back to a distinct point, I would be prepared to accept the slightly pointed sirah cecak as Tuban, its not really rounded enough for Tuban, but it would pass with a push. However, that gonjo tail has a slight curve and the end is more or less squared off. This is not acceptable for Tuban. There's another thing too, I cannot really see the blade cross section, I'm not sure if it is ovoid enough for Tuban, in a couple of pics it looks like it could be slightly raised down the mid-line of the wilah, not really an ada-ada, but not rounded either.

16th June 2019, 09:10 AM	#7
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I wonder whether this gonjo wulung is original, look at the mating with the blade and the neat & oversized hole around the pesi with a rustic wedge? Regards