Mandau, it's not! What is it??

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Cricket anyone?

??? What you mean Alan?

[Henk]

Originally Posted by Sajen

??? What you mean Alan?

Google for cricket and look at the pictures Sajen. Than you know what Alan means.

Alan, In The Netherlands and Germany cricket isn't a well known sport.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Henk

Google for cricket and look at the pictures Sajen. Than you know what Alan means.

Hello Henk,

Alan may refer to the oblong scabbards from this shown Isaw swords! I've googled before already.

Regards,
Detlef

[asomotif]

Good evening,

I found another example. But with much older coins….

http://www.bigyellowbird.nl/super-rare-sword/

This collector is also searching for more info on this "super rare sword".

The handle has the super brown and warm patina that should start anyones suspicion.
The odd side knife shows clear hacksaw marks.


One question ?
Why are we paying any attention to coins that are glued on a scabbard ?
I can add some roman coins to a scabbard. would that suggest early roman influence on Borneo ?
Sorry, get realistic. coins are nice, but in a lot of cases are used to fool you.

Best regards,
Willem

[A. G. Maisey]

Detlef, sorry for my delayed response, I'd forgotten this thread and my comment.

Cricket is very popular in the West Indies, not so popular in the East Indies.

Perhaps the coins might be East Indian?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Detlef, sorry for my delayed response, I'd forgotten this thread and my comment.

Cricket is very popular in the West Indies, not so popular in the East Indies.

Perhaps the coins might be East Indian?

Hello Alan,

Henk was correct, I know next to nothing about cricket. Still need to see better pictures from the coins but I think that Amuk is on the correct path.

Regards,
Detlef

[Albert]

In the collection of the Dallas Museum of Art is a similar sword.
See one of the photos on https://www.artoftheancestors.com/borneo.
Unfortunately, I don't have any additional information on this sword, not even an inventory number.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by asomotif

I found another example. But with much older coins….

http://www.bigyellowbird.nl/super-rare-sword/

This collector is also searching for more info on this "super rare sword".

The handle has the super brown and warm patina that should start anyones suspicion.
The odd side knife shows clear hacksaw marks.

Hello Willem,

Thank you for posting the link. This seems to confirm that there are real antique examples in collections. Would be interesting to know a little bit more about the shown example. Do you have informed the collector about this thread?

Originally Posted by asomotif

One question ?
Why are we paying any attention to coins that are glued on a scabbard ?
I can add some roman coins to a scabbard. would that suggest early roman influence on Borneo ?
Sorry, get realistic. coins are nice, but in a lot of cases are used to fool you.

I don't pay much attention to added coins by ethnograhic weapons but in this case (by my example) I think that it confirm that it is at oldest from this date when not younger. It has arrived at destination and the description I get seem to confirm a relative recent manufacture. But you are correct with your statement.

Regards,
Detlef

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Willem,

Thank you for posting the link. This seems to confirm that there are real antique examples in collections.

Sorry, but the overall brown patina on this example is not my idea of "real antique"
Same goes for the hacksaw markings.

I am going to leave this discussion now.

Best regards,
Willem

[kai]

Hello Willem,

I assume that Detlef refers to AM’s linked thread rather than the pics hosted on the other linked site. AM’s pic does not show much detail but seems to be a younger example by his own definition?

Any really old example available - pics, anyone?

Regards,
Kai