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Thank you for that detail Ibrahiim! Less than the 'metaphysical' angle I was looking toward, but this is more of an Occams Razor solution ![]() I'd still like to see more examples of these, and look at some of the geometric devices and symbols on them. |
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The rascal (i like it thanks Jim!) has to add some facts:
Bou Saada is a place Khodmi is a Berber name There is no khodmi in Morocco Moroccans have Janwi (from Genoui, Genova). The problem is most of the collectors mix the janwi with the Sbula / sboula. The Sbula is a long straight dagger, two edges (from lebel bayonet or others) The Janwi is very similar to the Khodmi, short, with one edge reinforced to stab people. They are the North Africans versions of the Corsican daggers and the Italian styleto or Genovan knives... on the pic, to the right one sbula and to the left one janwi Last edited by Kubur; 11th April 2019 at 11:41 AM. |
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Here a good example of Moroccan Genoui / Jenoui
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=170043 and here the Algerian khodmi |
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Wow! Rascal!!! You have really nailed it......…...I could not have asked for a more concise and well illustrated spectrum of these Maghrebi knives!!!!
While my theory of the 'mystical' character of the term was kinda fun, it is good to know more on the terminology and differences, as well as the true etymology on these (thanks again Ibrahiim for that input as well). These are the kinds of results I always hope for in these questions, and its great to learn more of these topics. |
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I sold a khodmi a few months back and spoke with the purchaser. He collected a number of these as he was from the region of production in Southern Algeria explaining that "Khodmi mean Knife in the native Amazigh language," from which is "Berber" or Tamazight and part of the Afroasiatic languages of Northern Africa.
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Thank you Geoff for this input, especially the specialized perspective from persons from the regions we are discussing. While we have various entries from dictionaries and other circumstantial references it is interesting to have insight from someone native to these regions. |
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http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=khodmi |
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