Small Padsumbalin Panabas

mross · 29th March 2019, 06:48 PM

One thing I would like to point out. Edge damage is just that edge damage. While it's romantic to think it was earned in battle it is far more likely that a previous owner( non-warrior) did something stupid.
For instance I have a tomahawk that I put a paper slicing shaving sharp edge on. My son was using it to chop wood with his friend. The friend saw how well it chopped and decided to see if it would chop a brick in half, it did, the edge has never been the same.
Just saying, pretty much all of the ethno-blades we see if used for what they were intended for will not usually sustain damage. As to edge on edge damage in battle, could happen, but would be rare. Any warrior that knew what he was doing would avoid that. For the simple reason that it could damage his weapon.

Sajen · 30th March 2019, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mross

As to edge on edge damage in battle, could happen, but would be rare. Any warrior that knew what he was doing would avoid that. For the simple reason that it could damage his weapon.

Hello Mross,

I disagree with your point. How you want to avoid a edge to edge contact in a battle when it going about your life?

And a good blade will receive only a very small nick/damage from edge to edge contact. I can show several blades with nicks in the edge where it's very clear from what they orginated. An edge to edge contact is very clear to seen by many blades which are fighting weapons instead of status weapons. Just my humble opinion.

Regards,
Detlef

Robert · 30th March 2019, 01:06 PM

Hello Detlef, Now that you have your beautiful new toy in hand I have a couple of questions. Is the metal on the end of the hilt a simple band or is it an actual cap that completely covers the end? If this is a cap would it be possible to carefully remove it to see if the hilt has been weighted (usually with lead) to balance this piece? If it is only a band, is there any sign of the hilts end ever having being weighted such as a lead slug or a now empty hole where a weight might have been? My reason for asking is that I have seen this done on some of the other small panabas that I have been fortunate enough to handle over the years. If the hilt on your example has been weighted for balance it would tend to add to my belief that this was originally made not only as a status piece but as a weapon as well. This of course is only my personal opinion and like many times before I could be completely wrong in my assumption. My congratulations to you on being able to add such a wonderful and rare item to your collection.

Best,
Robert

Sajen · 30th March 2019, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert

Hello Detlef, Now that you have your beautiful new toy in hand I have a couple of questions. Is the metal on the end of the hilt a simple band or is it an actual cap that completely covers the end? If this is a cap would it be possible to carefully remove it to see if the hilt has been weighted (usually with lead) to balance this piece? If it is only a band, is there any sign of the hilts end ever having being weighted such as a lead slug or a now empty hole where a weight might have been? My reason for asking is that I have seen this done on some of the other small panabas that I have been fortunate enough to handle over the years. If the hilt on your example has been weighted for balance it would tend to add to my belief that this was originally made not only as a status piece but as a weapon as well. This of course is only my personal opinion and like many times before I could be completely wrong in my assumption. My congratulations to you on being able to add such a wonderful and rare item to your collection.

Hello Robert,
It's simple a band and there is no hole where once could have been lead attached to give the panabas a better handling weight. The patination from the wood at the handle is very well patinated so it was handled many times over some decades. Like said, I am very happy with it equal if it was a stutus piece, a farmer tool or even a weapon. Thank you very much for the compliment!

Best regards,
Detlef

Robert · 30th March 2019, 01:25 PM

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Like said, I am very happy with it equal if it was a stutus piece, a farmer tool or even a weapon.

I would as well.

30th March 2019, 01:06 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Detlef, Now that you have your beautiful new toy in hand I have a couple of questions. Is the metal on the end of the hilt a simple band or is it an actual cap that completely covers the end? If this is a cap would it be possible to carefully remove it to see if the hilt has been weighted (usually with lead) to balance this piece? If it is only a band, is there any sign of the hilts end ever having being weighted such as a lead slug or a now empty hole where a weight might have been? My reason for asking is that I have seen this done on some of the other small panabas that I have been fortunate enough to handle over the years. If the hilt on your example has been weighted for balance it would tend to add to my belief that this was originally made not only as a status piece but as a weapon as well. This of course is only my personal opinion and like many times before I could be completely wrong in my assumption. My congratulations to you on being able to add such a wonderful and rare item to your collection. Best, Robert Attached Images

29th March 2019, 06:48 PM	#1
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	One thing I would like to point out. Edge damage is just that edge damage. While it's romantic to think it was earned in battle it is far more likely that a previous owner( non-warrior) did something stupid. For instance I have a tomahawk that I put a paper slicing shaving sharp edge on. My son was using it to chop wood with his friend. The friend saw how well it chopped and decided to see if it would chop a brick in half, it did, the edge has never been the same. Just saying, pretty much all of the ethno-blades we see if used for what they were intended for will not usually sustain damage. As to edge on edge damage in battle, could happen, but would be rare. Any warrior that knew what he was doing would avoid that. For the simple reason that it could damage his weapon.