Ottoman trousse

[Kubur]

Hi guys
more of these
they are too nice to be butcher tools...

[OsobistGB]

My version is that they have become popular thanks to janissaries.I've seen different combinations....Knife and fork ..knife , fork and skewer , but these are later combinations.
I have an excellent set, which I think is the middle of XVIII century
As is known, janissaries have a special cult of eating.I suppose you know that instead of the battle flag they worship the bowl in which they prepare food for the horde.I suppose they used such utensils in their meals , and later and a consequence of richer merchants have taken this fashion and spread it across the Empire

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by OsobistGB

I have an excellent set, which I think is the middle of XVIII century
As is known, janissaries have a special cult of eating.I suppose you know that instead of the battle flag they worship the bowl in which they prepare food for the horde.I suppose they used such utensils in their meals , and later and a consequence of richer merchants have taken this fashion and spread it across the Empire

Your set is amazing. I have one very similar to the one sold by Ashoka.
North African, Algerian.
I didnt't know about the Janissaries.
I guess a translation of what is written on the blades could help... where is Ibraheem??

[Kubur]

I hope Mister Kwiatek will read this thread...
I need his help!!! Thanks

In Europe they call these trousses 'hunting trousses"...

[Oliver Pinchot]

It reads, Nasr Min Allah wa Fath Qarib (Assistance from God and victory near- Quran 61:13.) This is perhaps the most common inscription on any Islamic weapon. Doesn't seem likely it was intended to inspire the user to call upon his faith in order to cut up kebabs.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by Oliver Pinchot

It reads, Nasr Min Allah wa Fath Qarib (Assistance from God and victory near- Quran 61:13.) This is perhaps the most common inscription on any Islamic weapon. Doesn't seem likely it was intended to inspire the user to call upon his faith in order to cut up kebabs.

Thank you
It depends if the meat is overcooked and hard to cut...

There is another trousse but i cannot post it as it is for sale!

[gp]

just cutlery, no weapons though...

there are also quite a lot on the market of the Bosniaken ( i.e. 1882-1916 period as described by me previously)

as for the Arab writing on the examples posted below by Kubur Effendi :
a neat knife but simple: normally a gentleman's knife would be more fanciful ( caligraphic).
I believe this set to be made either by a local bladesmith (from the countryside?) trying his best with an excellent result considering his skills on cold weapons (excellent} but on the art limit of decorating rather limited ... or someone trying to add something to just an average set, regardless if they belong to the scabbard...

some more nice trousse examples to look at :
https://fi.pinterest.com/alpbamsi/ot...trousse-knife/