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Is it possible that the three dot form is in fact linked closely to Koranic script? ...see the picture of the very important red amulet below surrounded by the row of triple dots..With an important verse from the Koran inside the protective? dots.
This object is illustrated from the MET museum and incorporated at https://simergphotos.com/2013/02/19/...-muslim-world/ Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 2nd February 2019 at 05:32 PM. |
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That is truly an interesting and compelling note !
The 'three' is a significant numeral in many contexts it seems, and as it transcends cultures and religions, superstitions, etc. it is perceived accordingly. While obviously the three in Christianity signifies the Holy Trinity, but in other religions it has similar purpose but clearly different in definition. It would be interesting to see more on this angle of the three dots in use! |
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Hello Jim,
The use in combination with Koranic script is most interesting and it seems there were no barriers on blades in using any of these marks singly or in multiples or all together. Thus I searched for evidence from the Religious script viewpoint and although the dots were not always used they certainly sometimes were.. I suspect their presence indicates a particularly important verse however what the exact meaning was meant to convey...protection from evil spirits or as some form of added sentinel or simply a good luck omen it is difficult to be certain.. diffusion in use across the different artefacts seems proven and below I have two forms ; one on Ceramic and the other on Islamic script. On the tile is the clear three dot symbol of Tamberlane on a Turkish ceramic accompanied by the elusive second element of Tamerlanes marker... tiger stripes. On the script and geometric covers of a rare pair of document covers at page 30 of TRM TAREQ RAJEB MUSEUMs 1994 DOCUMENT ...the actual contents being on page 31 which comprise Al-Shihabs Sayings of THE PROPHET(PBOH) written in Valencia 1172 AD. THE 3 DOTS in this case appearing just off the main page but seemingly guarding it. Notice also that the outer most border of the covers comprises a complete band of figure 3 and figure 5 dots...thus possibly signifying a kind of sentinel or guard line protecting the entire folder and inner document. |
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Yes the Cintamani (clouds?) is often shown with three dots or maybe it is a flower.
Hilt probably Deccan 17th century with a straight blade. Catalogue pp. 313-314. Last edited by Jens Nordlunde; 3rd February 2019 at 04:51 PM. |
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SEE https://www.academia.edu/17314322/_%...2007_pp._33-49
WHERE IF EVER AN academic paper brilliantly presented blows the entire roof clean off many of the ideas rumours legends and reasoning previously attempted on this great subject>>> The Cintamani Dots> See below the amazing coat ...Short-sleeved kaftan with Cintamani motifs. Bursa, attributed to Mehmet II but probably 16th century. 13/6, Topkapı Saray Museum, Istanbul. I thought it a good plan to place the Epilogue first since it is all encompassing but needs the research of the entire document. IT is brilliant> Quote"Epilogue; This paper has taken account of the infinitely complex way in which the triple-ball pattern was formed and became known as Cintamani in Ottoman art. Because of its immense impact on the art of the Ottoman period and modern times, a decorative peculiarity of three balls in the triangular arrangement has been celebrated by inviting yet confusing etymological stories. The misleading naming — Cintamani — has increased yet another perplexity and turned into one of the scholarly wonders in Islamic art studies. Clearly, this decorative motif is by no means a parody of Buddhist jewels. Its Turco-Iranian associations speak for itself. There is no intention to rehearse the Ottoman story of Cintamani — how the creative spark of Ottoman designers made this motif special; how the echo of Cintamani reached its climax in the design of ceramics in the 16th century and subsequently spread across variety of media; and how it became standardized due to its involvement in the mass market and lost its exquisite flavour in the 17th century. Yet in any case, Cintamani appears along the ebb and flow of Buddhist inspiration. As the style mellowed, the triple-ball pattern lost its animal features and began to convey different artistic messages. Its talismanic function was by degrees enhanced in Ottoman contexts, combining the forms of a crescent; it was eventually incorporated into a symbol of Islam, the profession of faith, as exemplified in the design of Ottoman banners."Unquote. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 4th February 2019 at 04:44 PM. |
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Might and Magic: The Use of Talismans in Islamic Arms and Armor
On Islamic armour we haven't really set much in print here, however, please see https://www.metmuseum.org/blogs/rumi...arms-and-armor and especially the armoured shirt where the individual rings are stamped with religious names... ![]() |
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Another Iznic ceramic echos the Othmanli use of the 3 dot "cintimani" design.
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