Looking vintage and antique samples of Talibong of Panay Island

[kai]

For reference, here's a link to the 'Filipino Traditional Blades' FB page with a sample of Panay Island talibongs (the names included are the smiths who made them) and their corresponding IDs, indicated as [blade profile - figural head name or utility]

https://web.facebook.com/permalink.p...99561170798116

Thanks for all your efforts on the ground!

BTW, what language did you utilize as lingua franca for the given names (Panay pieces)? Any chance to assemble a table specifying the equivalent terms for all ethnic (sub)groups?

Regarding the considerable ethnic/cultural diversity on Panay wouldn't it make sense to at least include Guiramas and Negros Occidental, too?

Regards,
Kai

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by kai

Thanks for all your efforts on the ground!

All the credit belongs to the Filipino Traditional Blades team, who have worked tirelessly and pro bono; they've done all the legwork. Like you, I just benefit from their generosity in sharing these data

[David]

Originally Posted by xasterix

All the credit belongs to the Filipino Traditional Blades team, who have worked tirelessly and pro bono; they've done all the legwork. Like you, I just benefit from their generosity in sharing these data

Thanks for clearing this up. What i am about to say does not mean that i believe these categories are incorrect or should not be taken into account. Certainly someone did some research here. Still, this is a commercial company seeking to sell it's product and it is in there best interest to have very specific names and stories for each of the variety of weapons that they sell. The American owner of this company apparently has his own ties to Pekiti-Tirsia Kali martial arts and is guided by this particular school of thought. I did try to do a little research on TFW, but it does not seem possible to find any information about how they determined all the very specific names hundreds of different varieties of edged weapons they make and sell. Some of their modern examples of known varieties of antique weapons look fairly close to form, while others seem well off the mark as far as i can tell. So while it is interesting to find very specific names to variations on the talibong or tenegre is is difficult for me not to apply at least a gain of salt to the information.

[Spunjer]

David, i think you're mistaking TFW with this page, and i assure you, it is not the same. the page that xasterix is referring to is legitimate. i have learned more about Filipino swords on that fb page (Filipino Traditional Blades) than anywhere else, including here. much kudos to the people that's running that page; they've done a lot in regards to researching the hundreds of different swords and knives found throughout the archipelago.
as far as TFW, whatever's on that site are either copied from the swords found all over the internet, sprinkled with what has been posted on this website, and the rest are nothing more that pure fantasy.

again, the Filipino Traditional Blades is no way affiliated with the TFW site that you mentioned. i can't emphasized that enough

[David]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

David, i think you're mistaking TFW with this page, and i assure you, it is not the same. the page that xasterix is referring to is legitimate. i have learned more about Filipino swords on that fb page (Filipino Traditional Blades) than anywhere else, including here. much kudos to the people that's running that page; they've done a lot in regards to researching the hundreds of different swords and knives found throughout the archipelago.
as far as TFW, whatever's on that site are either copied from the swords found all over the internet, sprinkled with what has been posted on this website, and the rest are nothing more that pure fantasy.

again, the Filipino Traditional Blades is no way affiliated with the TFW site that you mentioned. i can't emphasized that enough

Thanks Ron. The problem was that when i googled "Filipino Traditional Blades" the website for "Filipino Traditional Weapons" is what shows up right at the top. My mistake.

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

David, i think you're mistaking TFW with this page, and i assure you, it is not the same. the page that xasterix is referring to is legitimate. i have learned more about Filipino swords on that fb page (Filipino Traditional Blades) than anywhere else, including here. much kudos to the people that's running that page; they've done a lot in regards to researching the hundreds of different swords and knives found throughout the archipelago.
as far as TFW, whatever's on that site are either copied from the swords found all over the internet, sprinkled with what has been posted on this website, and the rest are nothing more that pure fantasy.

again, the Filipino Traditional Blades is no way affiliated with the TFW site that you mentioned. i can't emphasized that enough

Thank for the vote of support, Spunjer!!!

Decided to clean the sword further. Hope more people can share their precious talibong / tenegre / sanduko =)

[Battara]

Here is my taribon example:

[xasterix]

Originally Posted by Battara

Here is my taribon example:

Gorgeous. That one has Linamay blade profile, and comes from the province of Aklan as based on the J-configuration of the scabbard and the hilt characteristics. It must have come from a very accomplished warrior, or was used as payment for a marriage dowry. While the hilt design is still sustained in modern blades from Libacao, Aklan, the art of putting metal to declare the wielder's status is currently lost.