A beautiful 17th century hanger

M ELEY · 30th January 2019, 12:10 AM

My bad! Yes, I meant James II. Charles came to mind (unconsciously and incorrectly) because his visage was also portrayed on swords around this period in the form of 'mortuary' hilts.

Richard, you bring up a good point as far as the portraiture. England had always appreciated both their monarchs, king and queen. So why the second hand treatment? Could it be that the country wished to downplay Mary Stuart's role in the whole thing, being that she was James' daughter? The whole "guilt of the father, guilt of the bloodline" thing? Or perhaps some might have seen her as a true betrayer/replacer of the old king? Very interesting! I haven't looked up other images of the pair, as you mentioned on coinage. I'll have to do some research...

30th January 2019, 12:10 AM	#15
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	My bad! Yes, I meant James II. Charles came to mind (unconsciously and incorrectly) because his visage was also portrayed on swords around this period in the form of 'mortuary' hilts. Richard, you bring up a good point as far as the portraiture. England had always appreciated both their monarchs, king and queen. So why the second hand treatment? Could it be that the country wished to downplay Mary Stuart's role in the whole thing, being that she was James' daughter? The whole "guilt of the father, guilt of the bloodline" thing? Or perhaps some might have seen her as a true betrayer/replacer of the old king? Very interesting! I haven't looked up other images of the pair, as you mentioned on coinage. I'll have to do some research...