"Short" percussion

corrado26 · 2nd January 2019, 08:27 AM

I think the origin of this gun is india. It should have been made after the Sepoy mutiny of 1857 for the police troops of the East India Company. In cotrast to the British forces in India the native troops then got just guns with smooth bore barrels. The gun shown, probably a former P58 Constabulary- or Mounted Police carbine has certainly been shortened - so the front sight is missing, the iron band at the end of the stock near the muzzle and the cock are later replacements.
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thinreadline · 2nd January 2019, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

I think the origin of this gun is india. It should have been made after the Sepoy mutiny of 1857 for the police troops of the East India Company. In cotrast to the British forces in India the native troops then got just guns with smooth bore barrels. The gun shown, probably a former P58 Constabulary- or Mounted Police carbine has certainly been shortened - so the front sight is missing, the iron band at the end of the stock near the muzzle and the cock are later replacements.
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I fully agree with Corrado on this, in the 1980s and 90s World Wide Arms imported thousands of these and similar guns from India in various states of repair , I bought many at the time.

corrado26 · 3rd January 2019, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

I think the origin of this gun is india.

That's what I wrote in my post. I never said that it was made in England! Yes, it was made in India, not in England and maybe not under british superversion
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Pukka Bundook · 3rd January 2019, 02:30 PM

As Corrado says, made in India, following a rough pattern but not made To any real specifications.

I think many Princly States wanted their own arms of the more up to date style, so had them made locally.
I too have one, a very strongly built version. Heavy and thick, but with a bore apparently never finished inside!
Mine also has the breech-plug forged in place, as we see on earlier Indian arms. The lock is also Indian, but very good.

Happy New Year to all!

Snowman · 4th January 2019, 01:14 PM

Thanks!

Here some photos of lock system.Indian one?

regards Markku

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Snowman Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 37	Thanks! Here some photos of lock system.Indian one? regards Markku Attached Images

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corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,226	I think the origin of this gun is india. It should have been made after the Sepoy mutiny of 1857 for the police troops of the East India Company. In cotrast to the British forces in India the native troops then got just guns with smooth bore barrels. The gun shown, probably a former P58 Constabulary- or Mounted Police carbine has certainly been shortened - so the front sight is missing, the iron band at the end of the stock near the muzzle and the cock are later replacements. corrado26

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Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	As Corrado says, made in India, following a rough pattern but not made To any real specifications. I think many Princly States wanted their own arms of the more up to date style, so had them made locally. I too have one, a very strongly built version. Heavy and thick, but with a bore apparently never finished inside! Mine also has the breech-plug forged in place, as we see on earlier Indian arms. The lock is also Indian, but very good. Happy New Year to all!