Execution keris panjang ? Age ??

Jean · 9th December 2018, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Hey Jean, since this "sampir" seems to originate in East Jawa, why not call it a wrongko?

Well, I am not definitely sure that the scabbard & hilt of this kris originate from East Java, it could be a local Sumatran style or just the imagination of the maker, and other opinions are welcome.

David · 10th December 2018, 01:26 AM

Well, i was willing to accept somewhere in Jawa, but i've been wrong before.

francantolin · 10th December 2018, 06:39 PM

Hello,
Thank you David and Jean !!
Here other pictures of the ''special'' sampir

Kind regards

David · 10th December 2018, 07:24 PM

Well, it's kind of a wonky fit, but i'm not convinced that necessarily means that it wasn't actually made for this blade since it is obviously work done by a non-professional carver.

Jean · 11th December 2018, 10:07 AM

I agree and the hilt seems to have been made by the same "master carver"

GIO · 11th December 2018, 04:41 PM

My opinion is that there was the need to dress a bare blade and somebody carved a rough hilt in an approximate Java style. As to the scabbard it probably was also roughly made for another blade, possibly by the same carver.

francantolin · 11th December 2018, 05:39 PM

Hello,
so a non professional carver - popular/peasant work,
do you think it was made by sumatran people ?

Has someone please an example of sampir with this shape ?

Kind regards

10th December 2018, 06:39 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 926	Hello, Thank you David and Jean !! Here other pictures of the ''special'' sampir Kind regards Attached Images

10th December 2018, 01:26 AM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Well, i was willing to accept somewhere in Jawa, but i've been wrong before.

10th December 2018, 07:24 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Well, it's kind of a wonky fit, but i'm not convinced that necessarily means that it wasn't actually made for this blade since it is obviously work done by a non-professional carver.

11th December 2018, 10:07 AM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I agree and the hilt seems to have been made by the same "master carver"

11th December 2018, 04:41 PM	#6
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 331	My opinion is that there was the need to dress a bare blade and somebody carved a rough hilt in an approximate Java style. As to the scabbard it probably was also roughly made for another blade, possibly by the same carver.

11th December 2018, 05:39 PM	#7
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 926	Hello, so a non professional carver - popular/peasant work, do you think it was made by sumatran people ? Has someone please an example of sampir with this shape ? Kind regards