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Old 13th November 2018, 04:27 AM   #1
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Perhaps, in retrospect, it was the most consequential war: millions of dead for no good reason except for the German wish to become an European hegemon and the unwillingness of Britain and France to allow it, 4 Empires destroyed, peculiarly fratricidal one ( German, Russian and British rulers were cousins), and the ultimate results was the mutation of Germany into a Nazi state and of Russia into a Stalin's Gulag with the horrifying WWII being an inevitable outcome occuring only less than 20 years after " the war to end all wars"....

We are still living with the consequences of the disastrous decisions of European rulers in August 1914....
Not quite as simple a cause as described by ariel but rather than re state what Wiki says, here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I As you will read, there were several events which eventually lead to the wider conflict.
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Old 13th November 2018, 11:31 AM   #2
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Well folks, i don't know of any war that is not senseless, crazy and cruel. As i see it, there are no senseful, wise or merciful ones. In other words, there are no good wars. But of course, these are perspectives. However we can tell that Norman's perspective in opening this thread is to remember the date of the 1st. Great War ephemeries as a sad event. Dissecting its political ingredients is a problematic that may divert to a path of different kind, hence worthy of discussion in thematic warfare venues.

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Old 21st November 2018, 01:21 PM   #3
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While not wishing to belabor this most poignant thread and topic, I have regretted not making an entry here earlier. It is a delicate subject, and as has been noted the debates on war are far beyond the purpose here.What is key is to remember those who answered the call to duty and most importantly, those who never returned.


I watched a most moving film last night, "The Water Diviner", starring Russell Crowe. It is about an Australian father whose sons were lost in the tragedy at Gallipoli in WWI, and his desperate quest to find their remains and bring them home. It portrays the anquish of loved ones as they not only suffer loss, but the need for closure.


We must never forget them, all who were lost, regardless of the specific war, battle, event, or even nationality.....may they rest in peace.
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Old 21st November 2018, 04:54 PM   #4
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We must never forget them, all who were lost, regardless of the specific war, battle, event, or even nationality.....may they rest in peace.


Sentiments entirely in accord with the original post.

Thank you Jim.
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Old 21st November 2018, 07:07 PM   #5
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While not wishing to belabor this most poignant thread and topic, I have regretted not making an entry here earlier. It is a delicate subject, and as has been noted the debates on war are far beyond the purpose here.What is key is to remember those who answered the call to duty and most importantly, those who never returned.


I watched a most moving film last night, "The Water Diviner", starring Russell Crowe. It is about an Australian father whose sons were lost in the tragedy at Gallipoli in WWI, and his desperate quest to find their remains and bring them home. It portrays the anquish of loved ones as they not only suffer loss, but the need for closure.


We must never forget them, all who were lost, regardless of the specific war, battle, event, or even nationality.....may they rest in peace.
Hi Jim,
I also have seen The Water Diviner....a very sobering subject, and IMHO a very well done movie, showing the horror of Galipoli.
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