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Old 6th November 2018, 11:50 PM   #1
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Bought from a festival vendor. Appears to have been scrubbed. There was a warp in the blade I straightened (I'm an experienced smith), and a missing chunk in the pommel I replaced. Visible patterning in the blade.
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Old 7th November 2018, 01:53 AM   #2
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Michael,
This sword although called a Kris is from the Philippines and we discuss them in the Ethnographic forum, (sorry if this is a bit confusing) but in the Keris Forum we only discuss the keris's from Indonesia and the surrounding area.

Philippine/Moro krisses are sword sized and have somewhat differing cultural aspects from their smaller Indonesian relatives.

So, off to Ethno this one goes.
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Old 7th November 2018, 04:51 AM   #3
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Yup. Just arrived here. Thanks for the help.
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Old 7th November 2018, 10:16 AM   #4
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Hi Michael:

Nice kris you have there. Probably from the Maguindanao people on the island of Mindanao, and made at the end of the 19th C. or early 20th C.

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Old 7th November 2018, 02:33 PM   #5
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Nice kris you have there. Probably from the Maguindanao people on the island of Mindanao, and made at the end of the 19th C. or early 20th C.

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Thanks for the info. It appears it was dark at one point, but doesn't appear it was etched, just darkened with age. What is the proper finish?
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Hello Michael,

nice Kris, I agree with Ian about age and origin. And good repair at the pommel!
I would polish the blade and give it an etch with vinegar.

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nice Kris, I agree with Ian about age and origin. And good repair at the pommel!
I would polish the blade and give it an etch with vinegar.

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Easily done. How dark an etch? Barely enough to show the pattern, gray, or black? I also have ferric chloride, Belgian blueing and other acids.

This was my last restoration. 200 years old. Still shoots.

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Easily done. How dark an etch? Barely enough to show the pattern, gray, or black? I also have ferric chloride, Belgian blueing and other acids.
This blade from my collection was etched with vinegar, low solution. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=23

Nice restore job by the gun!

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PS: You should attach pictures direct to this site!
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Of the blades, I did. I can of the cape gun if you wish.

What style of scabbard? I can get kalantas wood.
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This blade from my collection was etched with vinegar, low solution.

Nice restore job by the gun!
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PS: You should attach pictures direct to this site!
BTW, I'll be at an event in Spangdahlem next week, at the flugplatz.
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PS: You should attach pictures direct to this site!
In fact it's required for database continuity.
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What style of scabbard? I can get kalantas wood.
Look for example here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=kris, but when you search with the correct keywords at this site you will find other styles for such a blade.
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BTW, I'll be at an event in Spangdahlem next week, at the flugplatz.
This place isn't very far away from my home but since I have to drive every day for my job by terrible traffic conditions I am happy when I not have to drive at weekend.
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This place isn't very far away from my home but since I have to drive every day for my job by terrible traffic conditions I am happy when I not have to drive at weekend.
The base is hosting a sci fi convention and I'm one of the guests. Though I completely understand not driving long distances just to talk blades.
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