Relic of a Javanese kriss whith original warangka

David · 29th October 2018, 02:18 AM

I'm thinking 4, or perhaps 3. Others may differ.

A. G. Maisey · 29th October 2018, 02:39 AM

Is the pendok truly brass? that is, yellow brass? Or is it mamas? an alloy like nickel silver/german silver/white brass.

If mamas, use #3, if yellow brass, use #4.

Bejo · 29th October 2018, 01:41 PM

Hi,

From the pictures, I prefer no. 4. In my opinion, mendak no. 4 is the most fit with the deder.

Best regards,

Joe

Athanase · 29th October 2018, 11:20 PM

So, the most suitable mendak is the n°4 (the pendok is yellow brass, but pale yellow).
Thank you all for your opinion.

A. G. Maisey · 30th October 2018, 01:40 AM

Athanase, have you polished the pendok with a good metal polish?

Unpolished mamas often has a yellowish tint, polished it looks like silver, and in fact a number of unscrupulous dealers will present it as "native silver".

Pendoks should be polished, not left with so-called patina intact. A keris is an item of dress, or a weapon, as well as many other things, and in all cases the pendok should be polished.

Keris should always be presented in the best possible condition, not to do so is culturally incorrect and in certain circumstances can be very offensive to some people.

Jean · 30th October 2018, 10:48 AM

If this kris was mine I will not only polish the pendok but improve the joint with the gandar at the top and try to reduce the dents & creases with a sunglon (bronze or hard wood piece inserted inside the pendok). Thank you Alan for the corrections.
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 30th October 2018, 12:05 PM

an error

Athanase · 2nd November 2018, 01:33 AM

I spent part of the pendok soaking in citric acid during a whole afternoon, after rinsing well, rubbing with a cloth and then drying the color is indeed much more silvery but still with a touch of yellow.
At one place there was a black oxide crust which has now become the same color as pure copper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

If this kris was mine I will not only polish the pendok but improve the joint with the gandar at the top and try to reduce the dents & creases with a sunglon (bronze or hard wood piece inserted inside the pendok). Thank you Alan for the corrections.
Regards

The wood is stuck inside the pendok so it is not possible to correct the many bumps of the metal.

30th October 2018, 10:48 AM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	If this kris was mine I will not only polish the pendok but improve the joint with the gandar at the top and try to reduce the dents & creases with a sunglon (bronze or hard wood piece inserted inside the pendok). Thank you Alan for the corrections. Regards Last edited by Jean; 30th October 2018 at 06:35 PM.

29th October 2018, 02:18 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	I'm thinking 4, or perhaps 3. Others may differ.

29th October 2018, 02:39 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Is the pendok truly brass? that is, yellow brass? Or is it mamas? an alloy like nickel silver/german silver/white brass. If mamas, use #3, if yellow brass, use #4.

29th October 2018, 01:41 PM	#3
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	Hi, From the pictures, I prefer no. 4. In my opinion, mendak no. 4 is the most fit with the deder. Best regards, Joe

29th October 2018, 11:20 PM	#4
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 421	So, the most suitable mendak is the n°4 (the pendok is yellow brass, but pale yellow). Thank you all for your opinion.

30th October 2018, 01:40 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Athanase, have you polished the pendok with a good metal polish? Unpolished mamas often has a yellowish tint, polished it looks like silver, and in fact a number of unscrupulous dealers will present it as "native silver". Pendoks should be polished, not left with so-called patina intact. A keris is an item of dress, or a weapon, as well as many other things, and in all cases the pendok should be polished. Keris should always be presented in the best possible condition, not to do so is culturally incorrect and in certain circumstances can be very offensive to some people.

30th October 2018, 12:05 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	an error