A Strangely Mounted Twistcore Yataghan

ariel · 19th September 2018, 02:23 AM

Its handle reminds Indian Tulwar ones, and chape looks Afghani end of 19 century.
A chimera in any case.

kronckew · 19th September 2018, 10:02 AM

They do make nice hunting swords tho.

Mine is a bit lower class:

Kubur · 19th September 2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

They do make nice hunting swords tho.

Mine is a bit lower class:

I think it's a chassepot bayonnet...

kronckew · 19th September 2018, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur

I think it's a chassepot bayonnet...

I know, as bayonets (I have one of those as well) the yataghan style was popular in many European countries in the mid to late 19c, including England. Mine is a French 1866 blade repurposed as a hunting sword. Fits the 1866 French all steel scabbard perfectly. Has it's own wood & brass one now tho.

CharlesS · 19th September 2018, 08:01 PM

Thanks for your input guys.

David, that is a great observation. I had completely forgotten about that "pandour" thread. We will never be able to prove it, but that makes sense.

Ariel, I am not quite sure how "chimera" fits here?

ariel · 19th September 2018, 10:51 PM

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Ariel, I am not quite sure how "chimera" fits here?

Chimera: a creature composed of different parts.

kronckew · 20th September 2018, 07:47 AM

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Chimera: a creature composed of different parts.

IMHO think it applies more to a creature made from dissimilar parts that should not or could not have been put together.

Which is not the case here, I'd say the parts that were used to repurpose the yat were done with intent and style, and do go together.

In the latter part of the 17th C., There were a lot of yats available from the Turks just lying about for the taking after their owners didn't need them any more. A few polite discussions outside Wien convinced the Turks to go home and sleep off their ambitions.

And a vast number of the Turks had been convinced to stay permanently, and they had nice holes dug for them to reside in, most leaving their weapons behind for their Christian hosts who had admired them.

They, of course, converted them to better fit in with their own methodology and arts. More a marriage made in heaven, as a vast flock of Winged beings had descended from out of nowhere to assist the Wieners in the negotiations.

Kubur · 19th September 2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Its handle reminds Indian Tulwar ones, and chape looks Afghani end of 19 century.
A chimera in any case.

I agree with Ariel, the chape is Afghani or at least Persian like the scabbard.
The quillons could be Ottoman, even the hilt... despite the European influences...
Then you have an Ottoman sword in a Persian scabbard...

CharlesS · 19th September 2018, 08:03 PM

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Then you have an Ottoman sword in a Persian scabbard...

...yet the stitching style is very Ottoman, though the mounts may be Persian.

Tim Simmons · 19th September 2018, 08:06 PM

The grip is kind of Chinese looking.

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CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks for your input guys. David, that is a great observation. I had completely forgotten about that "pandour" thread. We will never be able to prove it, but that makes sense. Ariel, I am not quite sure how "chimera" fits here?

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Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	The grip is kind of Chinese looking.