Relic of a Javanese kriss whith original warangka

Bejo · 3rd September 2018, 03:51 PM

Than you all for the explanations.

Best regards,

Joe

Athanase · 28th October 2018, 02:39 PM

Hello,

Among the mendaks I had in stock, I found four that have the right dimensions.
The numbers 1 and 2 are copper and were formerly plated with silver.
Number 3 is silver and number 4 is brass.

In your opinion, which of his mendak is the best suitable with the rest of Keris?

David · 29th October 2018, 02:18 AM

I'm thinking 4, or perhaps 3. Others may differ.

A. G. Maisey · 29th October 2018, 02:39 AM

Is the pendok truly brass? that is, yellow brass? Or is it mamas? an alloy like nickel silver/german silver/white brass.

If mamas, use #3, if yellow brass, use #4.

Bejo · 29th October 2018, 01:41 PM

Hi,

From the pictures, I prefer no. 4. In my opinion, mendak no. 4 is the most fit with the deder.

Best regards,

Joe

Athanase · 29th October 2018, 11:20 PM

So, the most suitable mendak is the n°4 (the pendok is yellow brass, but pale yellow).
Thank you all for your opinion.

A. G. Maisey · 30th October 2018, 01:40 AM

Athanase, have you polished the pendok with a good metal polish?

Unpolished mamas often has a yellowish tint, polished it looks like silver, and in fact a number of unscrupulous dealers will present it as "native silver".

Pendoks should be polished, not left with so-called patina intact. A keris is an item of dress, or a weapon, as well as many other things, and in all cases the pendok should be polished.

Keris should always be presented in the best possible condition, not to do so is culturally incorrect and in certain circumstances can be very offensive to some people.

28th October 2018, 02:39 PM	#2
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	Hello, Among the mendaks I had in stock, I found four that have the right dimensions. The numbers 1 and 2 are copper and were formerly plated with silver. Number 3 is silver and number 4 is brass. In your opinion, which of his mendak is the best suitable with the rest of Keris? Attached Images

3rd September 2018, 03:51 PM	#1
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	Than you all for the explanations. Best regards, Joe

29th October 2018, 02:18 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	I'm thinking 4, or perhaps 3. Others may differ.

29th October 2018, 02:39 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Is the pendok truly brass? that is, yellow brass? Or is it mamas? an alloy like nickel silver/german silver/white brass. If mamas, use #3, if yellow brass, use #4.

29th October 2018, 01:41 PM	#5
Bejo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: East Java, Indonesia Posts: 42	Hi, From the pictures, I prefer no. 4. In my opinion, mendak no. 4 is the most fit with the deder. Best regards, Joe

29th October 2018, 11:20 PM	#6
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 420	So, the most suitable mendak is the n°4 (the pendok is yellow brass, but pale yellow). Thank you all for your opinion.

30th October 2018, 01:40 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Athanase, have you polished the pendok with a good metal polish? Unpolished mamas often has a yellowish tint, polished it looks like silver, and in fact a number of unscrupulous dealers will present it as "native silver". Pendoks should be polished, not left with so-called patina intact. A keris is an item of dress, or a weapon, as well as many other things, and in all cases the pendok should be polished. Keris should always be presented in the best possible condition, not to do so is culturally incorrect and in certain circumstances can be very offensive to some people.