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I show you the sword when you visit me other wise I have nothing news for you to see.
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I am reviving this old thread to share two pandat I have acquired since then.
I also hope other forumites could share there variations so we could have a nice reference thread. The first one with unusually nice scabbard carvings. Michael PS I have cleaned the blade after I took the pictures... |
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The second one is a hybride between the long (Sidin) and short (Bennah) variation.
Also the pin on the grip is unusally long. Michael Last edited by VVV; 28th April 2009 at 09:03 AM. |
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Both magnificent examples VVV. I am drooling.
What is the approximate age of each? |
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So by looking on patina and work details my guess is mid to late 19th C (in order). I have been told from a local source that the Pandat wasn't manufactured after the 1930's. Michael |
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Hi Michael and Dajak,
Thanks for the pics and the info! What would be the theory or speculation behind the bifurcated end of the sword? Am very much interested in knowing what the hypotheses are! Thanks in advance ... ![]() |
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Hi Michael,
Great examples. I especially like the carvings on the scabbard of pandat 3. But why do you think the scabbard is made so long (according to the blade) and "kinked" at the end? Or do you think it was just a "fashion" thing at that time or characteristic by the carver, just like te protrusion the pandat scabbard you depicted earlier in this same thread could be? I think your advantage by having this larger scabbard is that you have more of those nice carvings.... ![]() Kind regards, Maurice |
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Hello Michael,
great finds. Unfortunately I don't have a Pandat to show! ![]() ![]() sajen |
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Unfortunately I don't have any answers to your questions and Dajak has left the forum.
It clearly is a no-thrusting-chopping-only-weapon so I don't think that there ever was a functional tip. I double-checked the scabbard length and measured it inside. It fits perfectly. So I assume it's a prestige thing? Like mine is longer than yours... ![]() Michael |
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Nice examples again ! I have a old book that where the writer ( 1865) describes the use of the parang latok, In my opinion close related to the pandat. At first he mentioned that the sword was a Malay influence and was already in disuse for warlike purpose course blades from europe where imported which where cheaper. Interesting is that he explaines the use ( parang latok) as beiing used at two different ways. The one for small jobs like chopping wood,where they hold the sword in the nick of the blade for a better grip. The other way is for an very effective blow where you use the blade in his full length and first slash the blade into the wound and then pull the entire length trough the wound which maybe explain why the handle is that simple. The sword has to be taken between the fingers when pulling trough the wound. I can also imagine that a head can be chopped off with one blow that way. Your pandat with the holes drilled in it can be very old I think and I see some similarity with designs of the malay Anak Wali ( see spirit of wood) so maybe closer to the source? ( just a guess) Arjan. Last edited by mandaukudi; 9th May 2009 at 04:09 PM. |
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Thanks for the description on the use of the Land Dayak swords. I don't get the resemblence with an Anak Wali however? Please develop this idea when you find time. Michael |
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