Nepalese bowie

Lew · 4th April 2006, 06:45 PM

Tim

Very nice! Maybe some type of knife for tiger hunts?

Lew

not2sharp · 5th April 2006, 02:39 PM

Here is a similar knife. There is clearly an association with Nepal; but, I do not know what these are called.

n2s

Tim Simmons · 5th April 2006, 03:58 PM

Yes Nepalese or possibly North Indian, Darjeeling? That is a big one. Are those squares 1"? The shape is ever-so slightly similar to that of Khyber knives and other knives from the region. Only a few weeks ago we were shown military Khyber knives with the same sort of guard.

Except Darjeeling is far away from the Khyber region

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not2sharp · 5th April 2006, 05:22 PM

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Are those squares 1"?

Yes

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Only a few weeks ago we were shown military Khyber knives with the same sort of guard.

Like this one?

n2s

Tim Simmons · 5th April 2006, 05:54 PM

Maybe someone who knows more on Nepal or the Khyber region swords and hilts might be able to help. I could also believe a Nepalese type hilt might be used in Darjeeling and areas east of Nepal. The guard is also like one we were shown on a Dha/Doa . I am going to speculate that these are from the east. On the map Nepal is a long way from the Khyber region.

This dha guard could be seen as similar or a derivative.

Ian · 5th April 2006, 06:17 PM

Tim:

That dha is an interesting one. I would say it comes from Assam or nearby, although the S-guard has a Chinese flavor. Then three part handle suggests Kachin influence too.

Very interesting sword.

Ian.

spiral · 5th April 2006, 06:31 PM

Intresting subject & pieces guys.

I have had a few of them, They are definatly made in Nepal, possibly India as well ,but I have no idea of what they are realy called. Although I did here the term Churi on one occasion from a Nepali dealer. But sadley he seemed slighty uncertan of the exact prounoceation & just said it was a villagers knife up in the mountains.

There are many antique styles of knife in Nepal that we dont often see in the west, althought I didnt see any antique ones of these. These all seem definatly mid 20th century to me.

Darjeeling although in India has a population of mainly Nepal descent. Many areas in India have massive Gurkha {Gorkha} & Nepali populations & have done for at least 150 years. {Currently over 100,ooo Nepali citizons in thier armed forces & probaly 5x that amount of Nepali ancestry. Probably are similar situation as more people of Irish descent in America than in Ireland.}

Gurkhas have fought The Afghan tribes since about the 1840s I think {many who today are of course in Pakistan a country the British {& others} invented {same as Iraq.} by drawing a line on a map, tying together tribes who had fought for years as is they were a common people.,

Afghan style weapons turn up in Nepali collections & would certanly have got to the British hill stations & garrison towns of which Darjeeling is one.

So diffusian of ideas is possible.

Spiral

5th April 2006, 03:58 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Yes Nepalese or possibly North Indian, Darjeeling? That is a big one. Are those squares 1"? The shape is ever-so slightly similar to that of Khyber knives and other knives from the region. Only a few weeks ago we were shown military Khyber knives with the same sort of guard. Except Darjeeling is far away from the Khyber region . Last edited by Tim Simmons; 5th April 2006 at 04:04 PM. Reason: A little more thought

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Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,843	Maybe someone who knows more on Nepal or the Khyber region swords and hilts might be able to help. I could also believe a Nepalese type hilt might be used in Darjeeling and areas east of Nepal. The guard is also like one we were shown on a Dha/Doa . I am going to speculate that these are from the east. On the map Nepal is a long way from the Khyber region. This dha guard could be seen as similar or a derivative. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 5th April 2006 at 06:05 PM.

4th April 2006, 06:45 PM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim Very nice! Maybe some type of knife for tiger hunts? Lew

5th April 2006, 02:39 PM	#2
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	Here is a similar knife. There is clearly an association with Nepal; but, I do not know what these are called. n2s

5th April 2006, 06:17 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Tim: That dha is an interesting one. I would say it comes from Assam or nearby, although the S-guard has a Chinese flavor. Then three part handle suggests Kachin influence too. Very interesting sword. Ian.

5th April 2006, 06:31 PM	#7
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Intresting subject & pieces guys. I have had a few of them, They are definatly made in Nepal, possibly India as well ,but I have no idea of what they are realy called. Although I did here the term Churi on one occasion from a Nepali dealer. But sadley he seemed slighty uncertan of the exact prounoceation & just said it was a villagers knife up in the mountains. There are many antique styles of knife in Nepal that we dont often see in the west, althought I didnt see any antique ones of these. These all seem definatly mid 20th century to me. Darjeeling although in India has a population of mainly Nepal descent. Many areas in India have massive Gurkha {Gorkha} & Nepali populations & have done for at least 150 years. {Currently over 100,ooo Nepali citizons in thier armed forces & probaly 5x that amount of Nepali ancestry. Probably are similar situation as more people of Irish descent in America than in Ireland.} Gurkhas have fought The Afghan tribes since about the 1840s I think {many who today are of course in Pakistan a country the British {& others} invented {same as Iraq.} by drawing a line on a map, tying together tribes who had fought for years as is they were a common people., Afghan style weapons turn up in Nepali collections & would certanly have got to the British hill stations & garrison towns of which Darjeeling is one. So diffusian of ideas is possible. Spiral