![]()  | 
	
| 
			
			 | 
		#15 | 
| 
			
			 (deceased) 
			
			
			
				
			
			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: Portugal 
				
				
					Posts: 9,694
				 
				
				
				
				
				 | 
	
	
	
		
		
			
			 
			
			Roland, i confess i could not sustain this discussion in skilled terms but i believe that, in certain circumstances and time stage longbows and crossbows were capable of piercing armour plate, providing they had an appropriate arrowhead and managed a direct hit; this is why breastplate central quills were implemented in the XVI century, to deflect the arrow impact, so as flutes in other susceptible armour parts. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I guess you would also have to ponder on the steel thickness and its temper; early plate 16 to 18 gauge (1.6 - 1.3 m/m) soft iron used in field armour was not properly the 5 m/m thick plate apparatus used by Ned Kelly in 1880. On the other hand, i fail to see the similarity between the need for a stopper in a hunting sword and this tulwar hilted estoc, or other of the kind. A man with his chest armour punctured doesn't have the strength to run through the blade like a wounded boar; but i might be wrong, though. . Last edited by fernando; 26th June 2018 at 03:56 PM.  | 
| 
		 | 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
	 | 
		
  | 
	
		
  |