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13th June 2018, 02:22 PM
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Hi Ivo
WOW!! Nice find. Congratulations. A very interesting musket. Would like to see more pics if you have a chance. Butt plate, left side of gun, wrist area, etc. Yes, the butt stock is exactly like the so called Dzeferdar style muskets made at the many gun shops in the Balkans. The style of butt stock actually derives from Italian style long guns from the late 17th to early 18th Century. The lock has that Germanic style that was popular during the third and fourth quarters of the 18th Century, and appears to be a European export lock. Does not look like a locally made copy. And the barrel is really cool !!! Appears engraved/chiseled it's entire length. Again, a really neat gun. Rick Last edited by rickystl; 13th June 2018 at 09:59 PM. |
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13th June 2018, 03:34 PM
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Rick said everything...
I'm not surprised by the barrel, the barrels on these guns are always cool. I'm more surprised by the lock... I would place your gun in the 18th c. |
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13th June 2018, 08:30 PM
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Thank you !
Of course , I will do more pictures and upload them. Yes - lock is not a local copy and is not replaced ... |
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14th June 2018, 01:22 PM
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caliber - 19 mm
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14th June 2018, 08:49 PM
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Hi Ivo
Thanks so much for the additional photos. Some additional comments...... The decorative brass piece surrounding the breach plug tank was a common feature on many Ottoman long guns. And the zig-zag type engraving is very similar to many brass, ottoman barrel bands I've seen. So the gun could have been made for an Ottoman customer (?) The engraving on the barrel looks fairly generic. So I don't really notice any paticular origin. However, the double bead from sight was a common feature on earlier Persian made barrels. So the barrel could be older than the rest of the gun. The lock id definately of European origin. The tumbler and cover, and the overall build quality show this to me. I see a couple of small holes, but it otherwise appears to have been made without a trigger guard. Or does it look like it is missing ? Again, that's for posting the additional pics. Very nice find. Rick |
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14th June 2018, 09:14 PM
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Hi Rick ,
I think it was trigger guard, but she was missing a long time ago. Besides the two holes is left no trace .... Ivo |
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15th June 2018, 06:53 AM
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A beautiful gun Ivo. I can only echo the comments already placed here, but what about those indentations on the barrel surface? This type of indentation has been discussed elswhere in relation to Rick's Tanchika http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23838
The suggestion is that at some stage these held stones/corals as decoration. There appears to be residue in the indentations on your gun, so what do Members think as to this being some sort of glue which originally held stones in place? Stu |
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15th June 2018, 02:12 PM
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That's what I noticed in the photo. With the exception of the two holes, there doesn't seem to be any other evidence there was ever a trigger guard. Curious. At least the one larger hole looks to have had a threaded screw (?) Usually the trigger guards on these Eastern guns were simply nailed to the stocks instead of being fastened with screws. On the other hand, the size of the trigger plate is large enough to suggest the possibility the gun was made without a guard. Many "Eastern" style guns were made without trigger guards. But I can't think of any other reason for the two holes in that location of the stock. Rick |
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