Amanremu

Roland_M · 24th May 2018, 08:08 AM

This is a little embarrasing for me, last night I found out, this Amanremu is no Amanremu. It is a rare Batak Pakpak Ladingin.
As soon as I'm satisfied with my restoration work, I will show it again with its real name. The forging pattern is worth to show.

kai · 25th May 2018, 12:21 AM

Hello Roland,

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this Amanremu is no Amanremu. It is a rare Batak Pakpak Ladingin.

Woa, hold your horses!

While it may be argued that there might be a continuum Amanremu - Mermu - Ladingin, your blade is at the very Amanremu end of the whole spectrum...

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 25th May 2018, 12:40 AM

So sikim and amanremu had hair coming from the hollow place in the hilt..........

kai · 25th May 2018, 08:05 AM

Hello Jose,

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So sikim and amanremu had hair coming from the hollow place in the hilt..........

I still don't think so; however, I can't prove a negative.

Regards,
Kai

Roland_M · 25th May 2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Hello Roland,

Woa, hold your horses!

While it may be argued that there might be a continuum Amanremu - Mermu - Ladingin, your blade is at the very Amanremu end of the whole spectrum...

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

it is a Batak Pakpak Ladingin!
Here is my source and if you search for "Ladingin" you will find one from Gavin Nugent, which is very similar to my one and it also fits exactly to the Ladingin from Volz. The Amanremu got longer "horns" on the hilt and the tip of the blade is less rounded.

Roland

kai · 25th May 2018, 09:23 AM

Hello Roland,

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it is a Batak Pakpak Ladingin!

My vote is still amanremu/mermu based on the blade (profile/etc., see below).

Quote:

Here is my source and if you search for "Ladingin" you will find one from Gavin Nugent, which is very similar to my one and it also fits exactly to the Ladingin from Volz. The Amanremu got longer "horns" on the hilt and the tip of the blade is less rounded.

I have Volz and agree that the example from Gavin's site is a typical ladingin. (I'm attaching a few pics for future reference. BTW, I believe this piece has a laminated blade with steel slorok.)

Ladingin blades typically exhibit a relatively evenly-radiused tip and fairly slender blades. Amanremu/mermu typically have this steep, kinda angled tip profile; however, this can get worn out from use. Mermu from the southern end of their distribution can have fairly slender blades which can blur the distinction between worn mermu blades and ladingin somewhat...

I agree that the hilt of your piece does merit a closer look: Pics from different angles would be great!

Regards,
Kai

24th May 2018, 08:08 AM	#1
Roland_M Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 525	This is a little embarrasing for me, last night I found out, this Amanremu is no Amanremu. It is a rare Batak Pakpak Ladingin. As soon as I'm satisfied with my restoration work, I will show it again with its real name. The forging pattern is worth to show. Last edited by Roland_M; 24th May 2018 at 11:44 AM.

25th May 2018, 12:40 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	So sikim and amanremu had hair coming from the hollow place in the hilt..........