Ottoman trousse

Kubur · 13th May 2018, 06:07 PM

Hi Guys,

Do you know anything about this Ottoman trousse?
I have seen many of them with 3 knives.
I would like to know what they were used for...
I'm not talking about the knife and fork, the use is obvious for this one.
Just the ones with 3 identical knives...
Thanks

Kubur

shayde78 · 13th May 2018, 09:16 PM

Two thoughts occur to me, but these are offered merely as speculation:

-There may have been a dietary practice that required different utensils for different food items (I.e. along the lines of kosher requirements). Could also apply to processing meats vs. veggies, or cooked vs. uncooked foods in an early example of food safety procedures.

-Or, could be a case of these being issued to those who had to prepare food for a large company on a regular basis. Processing an animal for the oven, grill, or pot is quite the task. I could see a cook sharpening his/her three identical blades in the morning. Then setting about his/her work, swapping out the dull blades for a sharp as the cutting tasks took their toll. Having knives of identical proportion, weight, and balance would allow the practiced hand to continue without missing a beat.

RSWORD · 13th May 2018, 10:29 PM

Seems a mismatched set to me. Why have brass handles and silver scabbard?

Kubur · 13th May 2018, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSWORD

Seems a mismatched set to me. Why have brass handles and silver scabbard?

it's not unusual... or just uncleaned silver...

Victrix · 13th May 2018, 11:06 PM

Never seen this type of knives before. They don’t look very martial so would guess they are eating utensils? Something for when you invite your friends out for a barbeque in nature? Both scabbards pictured are decorated with fish scales at the bottom, which could be a coincidence or point towards use with fish? The latter scabbard is clearly designed to be worn on a belt.

Or kebab vendor’s knife set? Perhaps the knife would need sharpening and there was no time so he would just grab the next knife available to avoid loss of custom to a nearby competitor?

Kubur · 16th February 2019, 06:57 PM

Hi guys
more of these
they are too nice to be butcher tools...

Kubur · 13th May 2018, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayde78

Two thoughts occur to me, but these are offered merely as speculation:
-There may have been a dietary practice that required different utensils for different food items.
-Or, could be a case of these being issued to those who had to prepare food for a large company on a regular basis.

Thanks
It's logic for us... but for them back in time, i'm not so sure...
I found another one from our favourite dealer...
If someone can translate it's maybe written on it...

13th May 2018, 06:07 PM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Ottoman trousse Hi Guys, Do you know anything about this Ottoman trousse? I have seen many of them with 3 knives. I would like to know what they were used for... I'm not talking about the knife and fork, the use is obvious for this one. Just the ones with 3 identical knives... Thanks Kubur Attached Images

16th February 2019, 06:57 PM	#6
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi guys more of these they are too nice to be butcher tools... Attached Images

13th May 2018, 09:16 PM	#2
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	Two thoughts occur to me, but these are offered merely as speculation: -There may have been a dietary practice that required different utensils for different food items (I.e. along the lines of kosher requirements). Could also apply to processing meats vs. veggies, or cooked vs. uncooked foods in an early example of food safety procedures. -Or, could be a case of these being issued to those who had to prepare food for a large company on a regular basis. Processing an animal for the oven, grill, or pot is quite the task. I could see a cook sharpening his/her three identical blades in the morning. Then setting about his/her work, swapping out the dull blades for a sharp as the cutting tasks took their toll. Having knives of identical proportion, weight, and balance would allow the practiced hand to continue without missing a beat.

13th May 2018, 10:29 PM	#3
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,093	Seems a mismatched set to me. Why have brass handles and silver scabbard?

13th May 2018, 11:06 PM	#5
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 763	Never seen this type of knives before. They don’t look very martial so would guess they are eating utensils? Something for when you invite your friends out for a barbeque in nature? Both scabbards pictured are decorated with fish scales at the bottom, which could be a coincidence or point towards use with fish? The latter scabbard is clearly designed to be worn on a belt. Or kebab vendor’s knife set? Perhaps the knife would need sharpening and there was no time so he would just grab the next knife available to avoid loss of custom to a nearby competitor?